• buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    He slapped a man on national television because he made a joke about his wife. That wasn’t even a mean joke, it was just in somewhat bad taste. (He was also laughing at the joke until he saw his wife roll her eyes at it)

    He is quite dumb

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        He didn’t want to have to go home in the same limo with her screaming at him for not defending her in front of the whole world. So he destroyed his Oscar winning night, his reputation, and his career, because he was too afraid of her acting like a psychopath.

        And she probably did it anyway.

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      26 days ago

      I was thinking, thank god he turned it down.

      Inception, on the other hand - I can’t recall any of the characters, so I don’t know which role he was considering. It’s a perfect Will Smith movie.

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      26 days ago

      I get what you mean/agree, but to play devil’s advocate, his character in Enemy of the State could’ve sorta worked as Neo.

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        It is crazy how I always think of that movie as “early career Will Smith before he became famous quippy superstar” but it released between Men In Black and Wild Wild West.

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          Don’t forget Will Smith was a Rapper and DJ first, ended up deep in a financial hole because he didn’t save any money for taxes following his musical success, took the role on Fresh Prince to try to keep the lights on and then Fresh Prince ended up being super successful and leading him to his second and even more successful career in acting

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          26 days ago

          Yup. I think if will smith had done it, it would be a completely different movie and may not have been as much a runaway success as it was

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        You get that we wanted dialogue right? We can all imagine Will Smith in a leather jacket with slow motion bullets moving around him.

        Every time someone who is pro AI tries to advocate for it it always comes off as their brain having turned to porridge. You get we can see that image in our minds, we don’t need it visualised for us at the expense of half an olympic swimming pool worth of water and at least six trees.

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      25 days ago

      I mean, he’s picked plenty of bangers.

      Sometimes there’s scheduling conflicts. Sometimes a director casts a wide net, knowing he’s going to get a bunch of rejections. Sometimes you get roped into a project as a favor or a quid pro quo (Vin Disel coming back for a cameo in FF: Tokyo Drift to get Chronicles of Riddick made, only to end up making nine more movies and counting) and it changes your career.

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      26 days ago

      he’s also extremely dedicated to maintaining his brand. turning down Django Unchained does feel like a HUGE wiff to me though. Django is basically Deadshot if Deadshot lived in the Antebellum South (presumably after the California gold rush since he spends some time in Colorado). maybe Tarantino films can’t ever fit the Will Smith toxic positivity brand?

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        Yea, but isn’t a kind of big part of his brand that he is technically family friendly? Like he didn’t use bad language in his music and stuff, right? Django Unchained but rated PG-13 would have been an entirely different movie…

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      25 days ago

      Will can’t help but be himself in a movie. Instead of… You know… “Act”.

      I don’t want the alternate Django Unchained where Will Smith starts rappin and getting jiggy with it.

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      25 days ago

      Strongly agree. As an actor Will Smith always brings some sass to movies. I feel like he would’ve ruined a few scenes. Especially him teasing Agent Smith unnecessarily.

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    26 days ago

    Sean Connery turned down both Gandalf in Lord of the Rings and Morpheus in The Matrix because he didn’t understand the scripts. He turned down Dumbledore in Harry Potter because it was too fantastical. Then he tried a reverse approach where he accepted the next role he didn’t understand, because clearly that was where the money was at. So he accepted Allan Quartermain in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, a movie which flopped hard. Then he ragequit the industry and retired.

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        Same here. It’s a fun action romp with some interesting characters. I get that it’s not peak cinema but it’s still good.

        Some of the CGI in it is insanely good too (the invisible man), Corridor Crew did a react episode or two about it.

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        26 days ago

        And that car, though.

        I mean, it had nothing to do with him, but still. Goddamn sexy car.

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        Holy shit, I never even heard of that, and the poster gives me an idea why. Was this by request from his grandkids or something?

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          According the Wikipedia page he did it as a favor to the creators. They do not have their own Wikipedia page so I have no idea how they know him. The film was pretty much universally hated for virtually every aspect.

          Sir Billi received extremely negative reviews from critics and audiences. On Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 0%, based on eight reviews, with an average rating of 2.3/10. On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 17 out of 100, based on 4 critics, indicating “overwhelming dislike”.

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      26 days ago

      Honestly, Sean Connery as Gandalf would have been shit.

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      A cool thing about being tone deaf is that I can’t tell who voices who.

      A sad thing is I can’t tell hot water vs cold water being poured. Finding out people could do that seemed like a super power to me.

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          The problem is that there’s no such thing as “regular” deafness (same for blindness). It’s a spectrum with several different types.

          You can be deaf but still capable of hearing, and you can be blind and still be capable of seeing. Although in a diminished capacity.

          In the case of being tone deaf, you struggle to differentiate different pitches.

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          I can hear, I just hear things more monotone.

          I can tell accents and volume levels apart though. Tonal languages are very difficult.

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    Will smiths thing is most similar to dwayne johnson, he wanted to be the LEAD or the most prominent actor and not the side character

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    maybe he just didnt get the point of the story or something. I dont think you can act well if you cant get into the character

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        I’m sure Keano was the right choice there. I could see him handling the Matrix if he walked into it in bewilderment like the original Men in Black movie. He’d be fine up until somewhere around the Oracle. I think when things started coming together, and he needed to start commanding his own destiny, the suspension of disbelief would have dropped.

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      I only ever heard this pop up after the sisters transitioned. I really dont get it? Its so much about freeing yourself from the cycle of control and misinformation that was prevalent even in the 90s

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        Like Smith literally keeps dead naming Neo through the whole film. It’s about breaking free from the world that controls you to be who you’re supposed to be.

        I didn’t think of it until I heard the theory either but when you look back on it, it’s definitely there.

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        They also wanted the character Switch to be trans and switch genders between the Martix and Real Life, but the executives stopped it.

        It can be a transgender allegory, but that’s just one valid interpretation.

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          To be honest, I was expecting the character named Switch to be significantly different between the real world and the matrix and that would have been consistent with the prevalence of people picking the other gender when playing games with customization. It wouldn’t have even struck me as representing someone who was transgender at the time.

          Stupid execs!

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        Not trans but I see how it’s an allegory. You live your life with how people expect you to be, while in reality you’re in a goo-filled pod pretending to be normal. You know there’s something wrong but you can’t put your finger on it until someone shows you.

        It goes to show how deep gender dysphoria is. It’s not just how you present to other people, but how you exist in the real universe, not the projection that society places on everyone, enforced by secret forces that are so deep in the bedrock of reality that they possess the bodies of anyone to enforce their wills.

        Also now I get why trans folks use the term eggs.

        (Man my high school English teachers would be proud of me for this.)

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        In school my RE teacher was trying to tell me about how so many films are about Jesus.

        TBF I love the Matrix and I had heard that before so I mentioned it and she said “yeah thats a good one”

        But so many things can secretly mean something if you really want it to. Really the good guy goes through growth and saves everyone then dies. Is basically like the main story humans like to tell. 90’s was big on “the world isn’t what you see it is. It’s broken and we can build something new” like fight club, is that a trans move? Is that about Jesus? I dont think so.

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          I think part of it is that in hindsight it’s a super fucking trans-coded film. I bet the Wachowskis didn’t realize it until later either. Honestly I love it and I think it adds another whole layer to everything.

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    Maybe Will Smith actually tried to read Baudrillard to get a grip on some basic concepts behind the movie. However, english translations of Baudrillard are fucking awful and borderline unreadable (common issue with scary french philosophers for some reason) so he gave up. Also - fuck Will Smith. Denzel should’ve starred in The Enemy of the State.

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    I don’t get people sometimes. Here’s a hollywood elite who thinks they have the ability to physically assault another person (and so fucking brazenly in front of the whole world) and never be held responsible. Fuck Will Smith and anything he profits from including recognition of past performances. Comments in here are acting like a bunch of wannabe-nostalgia-cucks who don’t care as long as the individual did a silly little dance and entertained them some. Dude needs serious rehabilitation and a reality check which will never come to him because people would rather talk about his performances instead of the actual person.