• tired_fedora@lemmy.ml
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    Complain to your local government. Yes, many websites are guilty of surveillance capitalism themselves and are lobbying for it, but the recent push was largely in response to new surveillance laws passed by governments under various guises, such as protecting the youth.

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      My government are pushing for this stuff though.

      Which is why I am here now instead of on reddit where I got fed up of being asked to submit for facial and ID scans. Fuck that! I have seen some of my comments online, there is no way I want my ID permanently attached to that.

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        welcome! great choice!

        I originally planned to just join the boycott for only a month, like 2 years ago because of the third party apps thing

        but I ended up never going back because lemmy is so much more chill, interesting and fun to me

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        Yes, I assumed so. Welcome to Lemmy! I meant: Complain to your government about it! Only when they are pressured by enough citizens is they’re a chance that they may reconsider.

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        If they associate my online identity with my real one, i am so cooked, i said certain stuff…

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          Yep. Tbh even pretty normal stuff like complaining about work. You probably wouldn’t under your real name though.

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    I found out that when confronted with ID surveillance I don’t really want to visit that site after all.

    Companies keep pushing security onto the user at the same time as demanding more personal data.

    They can suck my…

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      they have data breaches all the time, if they don’t outright sell it, even to ICE. It’s insane if them to try and frame this as secure

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    I remember a few years back facebook had me ‘verify’ my account by sending them a copy of my ID. I sent them a stock image of a random dude flipping the bird and my ‘ID’ got accepted.

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      For a shady steam keys reselling site, I once sent a picture of my id with literally everything blacked out but my name (they had that from my credit card), and it got accepted too

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      Quite the irony when those children are being used as tools. Their age is weaponised against them and projected towards everyone.

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    Sure, I can give you a government ID

    it won’t be real or it won’t be mine

    good luck verifying it with the South African department of home affairs

    it takes months to get an actual government ID issued

    if I have to wait that long,

    I’m using a different website

    dickhead

    spoiler

    @not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone how do I make that cool word art

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    I wanted to start using Monero. But found I have no way of buying it in my country without giving gov ID to the exchange.

    Some Know Your Customer legalities. Fucking sucks.

    The only other way is sketchy P2P trade sites where you have to trust the person at the other end.

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      I don’t accept it. But wtf can I do about it? Other than abandon every platform that asks for ID. But I have already done that. Which is why I am here.

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      Nobody is accepting it, this is the Sociopathic Oligarchs paying the politicians to shove this down our throats.

      Right now, the most effective solution is to stay on a full court offensive press against MAGA, steadily activating every apathetic voter possible, forcing every MAGA to face their fascism, take back Congress in November, and turn it into one enormous investigative body with a thousand tentacles.

      Then we can start putting them in prison for their CRIMES.

      And for those who say the Dems will never do that: Fuck you, YOU are the problem. Instead of signaling that you’ll accept their failure AGAIN, you need to be telling them that they’d better do the jobs we’re electing them to do, OR ELSE!

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        Begs the question why a lot of your society idealizes the mechanisms that give rise to those Sociopathic Oligarchs. They didn’t spring out of nowhere. Elon Musk is not anyone special. Trump isn’t anyone special. It’s not a just switch the dial problem, it’s a deeply rooted institutional one that will either churn out mild oligarchs at best or wannabe fascists at worst. Trump thrives on an exaggeration of an identity that does exist for a lot of Americans.

        Your current system will never do that, and you’ve trained yourself to believe the only viable solution that is widely accepted throughout the world, secession, makes you a slave supporter. There are some states that would start putting them in prison for their crimes, but which ironically enough will never be allowed to by the same gaslighters that want to praise the original secessionists.

        So what was it, was the war against secession a war against slavery, or was it a war to maintain American Hegemony for the oligarchs that could see beyond their slave farms and who ended up coining the modern day corporation? Because if it was to fight slavery, gotta tell you, the EU allowed the UK to leave without a problem and without weakening their regulations for private interests.