Good! Motherboard prices have been wildly out of control for a while now. Asus selling 1k motherboards when that same tier of motherboard used to top out at 400 bucks max. Let these greedy fucks have their lunch.
Don’t forget gutting the connectivity on lower end motherboards. Apparently PS/2 ports and LED error lights are premium features now.
Do people still use PS/2 ports?
Yea, those with balls.
It’s important for my PS2 mouse!
The wet dream for big tech has been to get people to pay subscription fees for compute, just like businesses do for cloud hosting. They tried with Stadia to get people to play games hosted in the cloud, but that was never going to fly.
With the compute demands of AI (which is comparable to a AAA game except for the largest models), they dont want to make the same mistake and let you have the compute. They see this as an oppurtunity for subscription fees for the earth.
The fact that we cant get hardware for a reasonable price is an added bonus to this plan.
All of this only works of everyone subscribes to this shit. Businesses will, because its just easier to manage it. Consumers though should not give in. If you want to run an agent, use a small local model.
The best thing that can be done is to make local open source agents and models approachable for regular users. Right now, they arent.
The wet dream for big tech has been to get people to pay subscription fees for compute, just like businesses do for cloud hosting.
Imagine the mental health benefits when AI datacentres make computers unaffordable, so we all have to go outside more, and then the AI datacentres shrivel because they have no customers, because we can’t access anything with no computers. So the AI companies die off.
I can dream, ok?
I would love this to be an unintended outcome from all this. However, I don’t think that’s where we’re headed.
I, for one, think there’s a lot of slop in and around the engineering of phones. We might see a lot more software, storage, and overall activity crunched, compressed, and crammed into our portable devices instead. And with more stuff in the cloud/SaaS realm, they can also become (even) thinner clients at the same time. :(
It’s “heavier” gear like laptops and desktops that’ll probably get pushed into the pro and “prosumer” market.
The wet dream for big tech has been to get people to pay subscription fees for compute, just like businesses do for cloud hosting.
Thankfully there’s a growing number of businesses that have been burned by this, and it seems like companies are starting to try bringing their critical systems back in-house again
There is this tipping point where it becomes more cost effective to bring it inhouse, even with the staffing requirements. For small to medium sized buinesses though cloud all the way.
where it becomes more cost effective
Reliability and risk are also factors. What do you do when a vendor tries to lock you into a walled garden before cranking up prices? What about storage of sensitive information? Sometimes the additional cost of doing it in-house pays off in ways that are difficult to track
I work for a large retailer that you’ve definitely heard of. We are pulling away from our cloud hosted presence and are building out a self-managed virtual data center in one of our own physical data centers.
Even enterprise knows that paying a monthly uncontrolled cost is shit.
So you guys are bascially building out your own cloud? Where does one even start with something like that?
We are fully cloud where I am, but i have this dream where we self host our inferrence. Ever since i learned more about that 40k acre data cneter in Utah offering capacity for the big guys (AWS, etc), im very skeptical about how safe our data is when sending it to a model. Ethical issues aside
OpenStack on our own hardware.
How has this whole saga not been an obvious indictment of ‘the free market?’
Big players shouldn’t be allowed to gobble up all the resources needed by small ones. How is it not obvious that they need to wait until production increases to meet their needs before embarking on their little project?
No this is exactly what the free market is. Regulations that make things fairer for small people is communism.
Then give me communism bc this free market shiz aint it. Giving us the scraps that AI doesn’t want is just nuts if we get anything at all. Esp since no one beyond billionaires want this ai crap
It’s like a dozen people gaming ever one else for the rest of the chairs on the Titanic.
They want to buy the dip
What about regulations that make things fairer for tall people?
That’s a whataboutism.
You mean tallmunism?
I apologise, but I am very anti-beanpole.
The free market means the market is free to fuck you. Yes you in particular 😅
mankind’s oldest trade, but doesnt compare to the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table.
There is no Free Market, that’s just a myth they tell us to allow them to do whatever they want. They don’t really want a true Free Market because it leads to Luigis.
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Sure, you may be able to buy a cheaper motherboard for a while. But you’ll pay through the nose to populate it, hence the falling motherboard sales.
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Oh boy, if its not the consequences of their own actions.
Me running old Asus B350 AM4 Board from 2017…
Hey, it works! I’m running a 5800x and don’t plan on touching a thing unless I need to.
I run 5700X3D on this thing combined with 7900XTX. It just works. I’m going to use this motherboard until that setup is outdated
I have a home server waiting around for an SSD for a year now. I have the money, but I don’t like feeling like I’m getting scammed. So I’d rather wait for this market to collapse than give them my money.
right before mother’s day as well! smh.
Can we create a fund with gamers, and then buy the manufacturers that go under?
We need just one of each, MB, PS, GPU, hopefully something for CPU will be buyable as well.
I literally don’t think we will have enough money. These are near trillion dollar factories we’re talking about. Whole countries can’t even afford to make more.
The sheer amount of global cooperation necessary to make these things is baffling.
If they are going under, maybe we can grab a good deal.
For CPU and GPU, our options are mostly TSMC, Samsung and Intel. Nvidia and AMD don’t really have fabs. Any of those can also help with the other chips on a motherboard. Samsung also do NAND so they’d be the best to acquire.
I think Samsung is going to get hit with helium shortages which are needed in fab, outside of hormuz the US is the only one with a locked supply
When is the best time to buy pc parts? Should I still wait?
If you need it for work/self now - best time is now, if you don’t need it for now - later.
Speculating for necessary items (even with rental bullshit) won’t help you most likely, and would just add mental pain.
Can always buy used, and older, if that works for you (though the prices are ridiculously also high)
I know you’re just a person but when do you think prices might go back down? I feel like we’re looking at a decade out honestly
We’re mainly just waiting for the AI bubble to pop, and it’s looking more and more likely every day as companies are slowly realising the only people that like AI are the companies selling the solutions.
You are assuming it’s going to break if it gets no better it is already useful and may well get much cheaper after all the dotcom bubble breaking didn’t eliminate computing
Prices are never going to go down. Never in the history of ever has a capitalist reduced their prices after a “crisis” causes an extended period of higher prices. What might happen is that they don’t keep increasing prices for a while to allow consumer purchasing power to rise (basically you have to start earning more money).
Yep, especially because chip manufacturing has such a massive barrier to enter.
Idk man. Shit’s so wild, they might never go down (fascism, ww3, complete meltdown of capitalistic markets due to french revolution levels of incompetent wealth inequality in some specific third world country out in the west, or some wild interpolation of them all).
Or they might go down next week when some specific big AI company starts selling off datacenter parts (get ready for dirt cheap racks)
Though, with datacenter parts, problem is, they’re mostly completely useless for consumers, because of hardware vendor lock in, most likely.
I guess in the end, I am happy I bought more storage space, gpu, and replacement cpu when I needed it, even if it seemed a bit high (now it’s cosmic)
About 2019.
If it still works, keep using it.
I still see fewer NAS motherboard options on Aliexpress than a year ago.
I was originally thinking of grabbing parts as they go on sale finally (this PC is from 2018ish, I think, and I guess I could upgrade some bits), but I think I’m just going to wait and get a laptop. In part because I do less gaming, the gaming is less intense, and I’m thinking about trying to spend part of the year living outside of Japan which would make the logistics of shipping a heavy full tower around (or even mid if I downsized) just too much of a headache. Still not 100% sure, though.
Aww but I want more digital diarrhea, a whole mudslide of it!
Reaper going from door to door meme
THE COLLAPS HAS BEGUN!
…if i understand it correctly?
