Microsoft is raising prices on all its current Surface PC offerings, with the midrange devices now starting at above $1,000, and flagships starting at $1,500.
I honestly feel that’s less of a diss on the Neo and more of a statement on how overpowered phones are now, especially considering the limitations placed on mobile OSes.
Compared against a bunch of laptops in the price class from dell, HP, etc and the single-core performance is like 50% higher on the iPhone CPU in the macbook neo.
I can’t wait for more ARM CPUs that hit these specs for a reasonable price.
As someone who was very excited about ARM several years ago and still is using ARM for half of my homelab equipment, it’s unfortunately rapidly become irrelevant. x86 CPUs can now run as efficiently at the same TDP while still beating it in performance with all the benefits of x86. Unless something unforeseen changes, I probably won’t be buying any more ARM machines for homelab/server use. Still using what I already own, of course.
RISC-V seems cool though, but not sure that it will be more attractive than x86.
Those single core performance numbers are entirely benchmaxxed and don’t reflect real world performance or reality at all
EDIT: downvoters in denial. They get better synthetic Geekbench numbers compared to some of the latest desktop x86 processors (“beats” 7950X and “meets” 9950X), but get absolutely smoked by those same processors in real use. Maybe your only use of a computer is running Geekbench idk.
EDIT: downvoters in denial. They get better synthetic Geekbench numbers compared to some of the latest desktop x86 processors (“beats” 7950X and “meets” 9950X), but get absolutely smoked by those same processors in real use. Maybe your only use of a computer is running Geekbench idk.
Where the heck are you getting these results from because there’s absolutely no way these results are real. The M5 Max doesn’t even get anywhere near the 9950X much less the A18 Pro.
Honestly, do people actually treat geekbench results with anything more than a pinch of salt outside of mobile? I thought people at least use Cinebench for this.
I’d guess the downvoters do. The apple fanboys really trying hard to convince themselves that their phone is faster than a 9950X 😂 they’ll cling to anything that feeds the delusion
Your words were correct but not your laughing smug face. You said it like it was some kind of own when really it was complementing iPhone’s.
I’ll hate on all the companies in the world, but I’ll do it based on facts and not allow my bias to make me look like a clown, as it did for you here.
Just try and be better is all I ask, else we may as well go hang around on r/conservative with all the other folk that don’t fact check and have no integrity.
Whatever dude. You’re not going to bring me round to your warped bias view and I’m not going to instil any integrity or common sense into you so let’s go our separate ways as there’s nothing more to be said.
No hard feelings you silly cunt 😂. For what it’s worth I hope you have a wonderful day.
I’m just correct, sorry. Not sure why you take the fact that Apple is selling a laptop made from phone hardware so personally? Apparently stating truth is bias and being a clown. 🤔
And it uses literally the same exact hardware as the iPhone 🤣
I honestly feel that’s less of a diss on the Neo and more of a statement on how overpowered phones are now, especially considering the limitations placed on mobile OSes.
Some of the same hardware, yes.
But also - the CPU/GPU in the iPhones are insane.
Compared against a bunch of laptops in the price class from dell, HP, etc and the single-core performance is like 50% higher on the iPhone CPU in the macbook neo.
I can’t wait for more ARM CPUs that hit these specs for a reasonable price.
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As someone who was very excited about ARM several years ago and still is using ARM for half of my homelab equipment, it’s unfortunately rapidly become irrelevant. x86 CPUs can now run as efficiently at the same TDP while still beating it in performance with all the benefits of x86. Unless something unforeseen changes, I probably won’t be buying any more ARM machines for homelab/server use. Still using what I already own, of course.
RISC-V seems cool though, but not sure that it will be more attractive than x86.
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This seems nonsensical to me. It’s physically impossible for ARM competitors to match the performance of Apple ARM?
Not to mention that we’re talking about their lowest-specced CPU here and there are far more powerful ones.
Those single core performance numbers are entirely benchmaxxed and don’t reflect real world performance or reality at all
EDIT: downvoters in denial. They get better synthetic Geekbench numbers compared to some of the latest desktop x86 processors (“beats” 7950X and “meets” 9950X), but get absolutely smoked by those same processors in real use. Maybe your only use of a computer is running Geekbench idk.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+A18+Pro+(MacBook+Neo)&id=7232
Where the heck are you getting these results from because there’s absolutely no way these results are real. The M5 Max doesn’t even get anywhere near the 9950X much less the A18 Pro.
That’s exactly my point, yeah. It’s ridiculously benchmaxxed.
A18: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8650702
9950X: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-9-9950x
7950X: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-9-7950x
Honestly, do people actually treat geekbench results with anything more than a pinch of salt outside of mobile? I thought people at least use Cinebench for this.
I’d guess the downvoters do. The apple fanboys really trying hard to convince themselves that their phone is faster than a 9950X 😂 they’ll cling to anything that feeds the delusion
Well this is the company that claimed to be on par with a 4090 after all…
Not exactly, it’s a binned version. 5 GPU cores instead of the 6 on the iPhone. Still, it’s pretty impressive for what it’s able to do.
Seems you let you bias take over rather than actually knowing why you’re talking about.
Except I’m factually correct.
Your words were correct but not your laughing smug face. You said it like it was some kind of own when really it was complementing iPhone’s.
I’ll hate on all the companies in the world, but I’ll do it based on facts and not allow my bias to make me look like a clown, as it did for you here.
Just try and be better is all I ask, else we may as well go hang around on r/conservative with all the other folk that don’t fact check and have no integrity.
And I’m supposed to be the biased one who looks like a clown?? 🤣
Brother, we aren’t talking about phones, we are talking about laptops. Yes, it is a huge own.
As you’ve admitted, I’m factually correct.
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The laptop is extremely mediocre. I wouldn’t want a laptop made from an Android phone, either.
Your one downvote isn’t a ratio…
Whatever dude. You’re not going to bring me round to your warped bias view and I’m not going to instil any integrity or common sense into you so let’s go our separate ways as there’s nothing more to be said.
No hard feelings you silly cunt 😂. For what it’s worth I hope you have a wonderful day.
I’m just correct, sorry. Not sure why you take the fact that Apple is selling a laptop made from phone hardware so personally? Apparently stating truth is bias and being a clown. 🤔