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I explained my position multiple times. You never countered these arguments, you just went “nuh uh!”

I see you don’t have any further arguments to add since this devolved into a “no u” back and forth. EOT, I guess.

You want to eradicate a nation. That’s genocide. You’re a proponent of genocide.

You assumed I was “bad” because of a mental disability as a hypothetical

I didn’t assume anything, hence the question, not a statement. That’s how questions work. You imagining it being a statement is yet another example of your approach of just fighting invented arguments.

I’m not reading all that

So, nothing really changed, has it?

Death to “Israel”, death to Europe, death to empire, death to colonialism

Like I said: you’re an extremist fundamentalist and a proponent of genocide. I’m glad you finally just flat out admitted it.

free Palestine

At least in this we agree, I guess.

I don’t need to imagine, you called me “a disabled person” as an insult

I asked you as a hypothetical. It was meant to verify the cause for your gross historical ignorance and genocidal tendencies.

Several people have explained to you several times how and why you are wrong

Yeah, by ignoring archaeological and historical evidence. Cheers for that. I’ll stick to facts, not fundamentalist faith.

your racist condescending European colonial attitude

“Both peoples have the right to the land their ancestors come from” - such colonialism, much condescension! Wow!

it impossible for you to actually grasp the reality of colonialism and therefore the reality of “Israel”.

One people living in an area and getting a country: all good.

Another people living in an area and getting a country: COLONIALISM!

Are you hearing yourself?

40 years ago you would have been crying about how “the Blacks” want to commit genocide against the white South Africans and denying that they were colonizers too

the two situations are the same but everyone today knows that the South African example would be obviously racist.

The two situations are MASSIVELY different.

Whites had no business being in SA in the first place, especially as colonisers.

Whereas Jews/Israelites lived in the Palestine Region for at least 2600 years before Israel and Palestine became a thing.

Go read the 2017 charter instead of assuming the people you think are below you match the caricature you have of them in your head.

OK, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and let you explain it to me.

Let’s even ignore the fact that Hamas keeps flinging dumb rockets at Israel non-stop. Let’s even pretend that the recent attack was “an inside job” or something.

How are they going to “restore the lands of Palestine”, defined as “everything between the river Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea” without literally making Israel non-existent, thus eradicating it?

Well, clearly not, because you’re still missing the point. Or not understanding it.

You’re a proponent of genocide. How is that not being an extremist?

Damn, I can really feel how tempted you were to use the r-slur there. Not surprising that a zionist and a colonialist would also be an ableist.

You do that a lot, don’t you? Imagine things about people you disagree with and then assume they’re true.

My examples are advocating for decolonization done by the people there (Palestinians). You’re the one imagining “third parties”.

I’m imagining third parties? You just stated that Palestinians are Israelis, mate. To the Israelis (and their nation), Palestinians are the third party (and the other way around).

You really are having trouble grasping simple concepts.

Hamas’ stated eradication of Israel = genocide.

The removal of Israel’s government, reform, security guarantees towards Palestine = not genocide.

I thought this was relatively simple to get.

Well, in that case, all I can recommend is re-reading what I wrote, because you either didn’t get it, missed it, or misunderstood it.

I can see how in your extremist mind it seems like that.

I hope you understand that you being completely out of arguments is evident here.

No.

Are you saying that Aliens stole it and placed Zimbabwe in its place…?

Again: WTF are you talking about?

I’m literally suggesting that Israel should be dealt with exactly like the 3rd Reich - get rid of the fascist government, restore law and order in the region, protect Palestine. But not by eradicating Israel. One genocide does not justify another!

And for that, the extremist fundamentalists around here are calling me a “genocide advocate”.

Weird. I use it on my Linux PC and my Android phone. It had a period of problems some weeks ago, but the creator of the YouTube plugin fixed it and it works perfectly fine again.

I mean, it’s Linux, so you could use it right now.

Are you… suggesting that the existence of Germany on our current maps is a hoax and in reality it doesn’t exist…?

WTF are you trying to show here?

Facts are this: 3rd Reich got spanked, its government eliminated, its people remained where they were, and after a short while, governance over the territory was restored to the German people (with the exception of East Germany, but that had nothing to do with 3rd Reich being removed, that was just russia’s attempt at colonialism).

Now, in terms of Israel, people here seem to be suggesting that we should let Hamas “do its thing”, which is: the complete eradication of Israel as a state, a nation, and a culture. Which, by all definitions, is a genocide.

I’m saying: let’s spank them, eliminate their government, let their people remain where they are, and after a short while, restore the governance of its territory to the Israeli people (with the caveat that West Bank and Gaza return to Palestine).

Which is what we did with the 3rd Reich. And for which you people are calling me a proponent of colonialism and genocide.

I’m sorry, are you a disabled person? Or did you forget the point you guys were trying to make?

Rhodesia changed its government and name.

South Africa changed its government.

No third parties partitioned the lands of either.

Your examples are advocating for my approach of punishing the leadership and giving the people a fresh start.

Which countries have partitioned and taken over the land of Rhodesia and South Africa? You can show me on the map.

Oh! That’s a great example!

Show me on the map which countries have partitioned and taken over Germany’s lands after WW2!