“Unremoval of Piracy Communities” https://lemmy.world/post/6018317
This post needs to be updated to reflect the current policy.
Six months later, a new Removal of piracy communities announcement confirmed that these communities had been removed. !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com, which was the most popular piracy community, is still inaccessible to lemmy.world users. This is misleading: users see the old post, sign-up, and then find out they cannot access the community.
Please edit the original post to include the new removal announcement.
You say that as if it’s a gotcha, not a boon
Ultimately when you criticize censorship you ultimately get a bunch of Freeze peach libertarians who want to do whatever they want and see moderation as something to fear. That’s why it’s important to be precise and not speak in broad or abstract terms when criticizing censorship.
If censorship is what’s being criticized, it’s no different. This is why I tell people not to use db0.
Used to be the first thing we’d suggest but it’s just become such a nanny instance that jumps on everyone’s shit.
Yeah, because piefed.world doesn’t defed or censor anyone. Lol
Paradox of tolerance
I hate when censorship comes for people I do like.
I love when censorship comes for people I don’t like.
Admins are fighting a flood of instances and users more interested in getting attention than participating in the community. Consequently, you’ll have power users ballooning the front page with click-bait. You’ll have instances choke full of reactionary content specifically intended to bait a flame war. You’ll have spammers plugging their own brands or working on behalf of some third party. And you’ll have the odd bot-farm or other automated account that’s just probing the Fediverse for gaps.
“Ah, but the individual users can always block what they choose”
Sure. Technically. But nobody wants to wake up every morning to a front page that’s full of shit. The spammers can bloat your inbox faster than the individual can flush it out. So Admins who step in and do a little public house cleaning - the Nanny work you hate - makes the website cleaner and friendlier for lay users that pop in now and then.
feddit wasn’t a spam instance?
I think the censorship arguments can definitely use some maturing… for example, what would you think of the cultural censorship that occurs with Nazi ideology? Probably want to keep that one, huh?
We don’t necessarily want to do away with censorship, I think. But, I think in the most mature world, it would be healthy to.
Why can’t the boy ask his priest about his most serious doubts regarding god, and receive an honest answer back? Why does the priest say the solution is faith, an inward focused quality to be solved at the individual-level?
There is so much fear, so much bias, so much identity tethered to ideology… sometimes I don’t know if humans can help it. Censorship is a … nuanced issue.
Why is the priest allowed to just make shit up with nothing more than a bronze aged poorly translated manuscript to back him up? The boy should be able to ask away. It’s the priest that should be censored.
Crazy factoid I learned recently. Children younger than 18 are prohibited from participating in religious activities and receiving religious education, even in schools run by religious organizations within China. If you’re too young to consent, you’re too young to be indoctrinated into a religious tradition.
We vote on who we want to defederate from. Our vote threads even have cool pirate themed images and stuff.
They even make less content an event so you can celebrate your own loss?
Things are done there by consent. I see that’s something you don’t approve of.
By consent of others, whoever registered there will be forced to that outcome even if they disagree. I fail to see how that’s a good thing
You can always go to another instance that wishes to associate with them. The idea of the fediverse is you get to pick the experience you want.
People on the Fediverse need to learn sooner or later that instances don’t exist for them to access the rest of the fediverse. They exist to be and host their own communities. From the first perspective defederation might seem antithetical to the purpose of an instance, but from the second perspective it isn’t.
It actually makes much more sense.
It’s you get to see content from different instances if many instances defederate each other then what the reason of fediverse?
I think defederation speaks volumes of the quality of the content in the instances that are blocked, wouldn’t you agree? I wouldn’t want to listen to genocide apologists or astroturfed propaganda. Yes that means the echo chamber gets a little more closed off but it’s a prevention of exposure to some bad actors. I certainly wouldn’t want to put up with people who do Charlie Kirk or Tucker Carlson moves by “just asking questions” all the time.
Seems kinda hypcritical. Aw well, hivemind gonna hivemind.
Do you even know why the vote to defederate from Feddit came up? It’s because there are quite a few Palestinian genocide apologist accounts from there. It’s like the Nazi bar problem, you tolerate a few hanging out there and suddenly everyone else leaves while it gets full of them. I’d rather not hear that shit myself.
That would require understanding or research when they just want to use a gotcha
Imagine being so Reddit-/.world-brained that you think of instance democracy as “hivemind gotta hivemind”
Go make your own “censor free” instance and stop whining, jfc
They’ll probably whine when it gets defederated due to hosting libertarian freeze peach trolls. Which often happens with no-defed instances. Either that or they’ll learn why defederation is done when they can’t keep up and they end up closing their instance down.