Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. …

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. …

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldEnglish
      138·
      4 days ago

      Which is why db0 defederated from the Zionazi echo chamber.

      What would be the point of federating with an instance which simply bans anti-Zionism? There is no way to convince feddit users since their mods enforce the German Zionist viewpoint.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
        3·
        4 days ago

        Another user mentioned that feddit.org may have been consistently censoring anti-Zionist voices. If that’s true it would make this a lot more reasonable in my view. However the post doesn’t seem to explicitly make this claim, so I am curious if it’s true. It left me with the impression that they were defederating mainly due to the presence of some Zionist users on the instance, which seems a very excessive response when the ability to ban individual users exists.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
        119·
        4 days ago

        Well there are many examples but yes.

        Guilt by association is still stupid even if you come up with a different analogy for it.

          • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
            53·
            4 days ago

            Yeah I would agree with that. However there are a number of ml users who are very deserving of that treatment based on their individual behavior. But insofar as that’s used against other random users on the same instance it’s probably not appropriate.

            • mrdown@lemmy.worldEnglish
              82·
              4 days ago

              However there are a number of ml users who are very deserving of that treatment based on their individual behavior

              Same with feddit.org users

          • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
            121·
            4 days ago

            Depends completely on the impacts of that decision. Zionism is the predominant viewpoint in my country, so if I were to refuse to ever be around them, I would be a complete shut in, which would be counter-productive to my larger political goals. Which include defeating Zionism.

            But I don’t believe it’s true that this instance is full of zionists/nazis. The accusation seems to be that there are some users on it who are zionists.

            • draco_aeneus@mander.xyzEnglish
              82·
              4 days ago

              To be clear, the accusation is that the mod team is Zionist, and that they consistently moderate all anti-Zionist content.

              It’s a Zionist bar not just because there’s a few Zionists, but because the bar owner keeps kicking out the people who cause a ruckus with the Zionists.