It is objectively a lot more male than Reddit or other social media. Reddit has many issues, but lack of women is not one of them.

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      Upvote / downvote counts: these should be yeeted into the garbage pile of history.

      Still not exactly sure what “yeeted” means, but I like how upvotes & downvotes tend to bring quality content to the fore, and I even like them as a permanent record. They’re not very useful of course, but having the motivation to permanently increasing my totals is useful for sharing good content and communicating in good faith. At least for me.

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          Nah I think you’re on the money. As someone with ADHD, those worthless little updoots and infinity-scrolling are almost as bad as any algorithm!

          ICBW and YMMV

          YTMND. 👍

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          Yeet - https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yeet

          Okay, thanks. I can never seem to remember it, maybe because it feels so unnatural. Maybe it would help if I knew where it came from, though. *shrug*

          Pragmatically, they’ve end up being more a social proof / opinion suppression / brigading tool.

          That seems exceptionally pessimistic to me, but maybe you have more insight in to all that than I do. Personally I think multiple things can be true about upvotes / downvotes, some useful, some harmful perhaps.

          In any case, there is no debate that upvotes are useful and valuable to me when it comes to posting and commenting.

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              Well, I remember ye olden days of Usenet - we mostly got along without them, and without some of the issues they seem to cause.

              Things change, though. Upvote/downvote was one of the many things Reddit and other places trialed over the years, and based on the success, stuck with it. Me, I barely spent any time on Usenet, but it occurs to me that the userbase was probably smaller. A much, much larger userbase probably fits better with upvote/downvote, so the comparison there is likely skewed, methinks.

              ‘Dopamine rush’ is exactly right, and I think it’s useful and informational, similar to the way that people react to your statements and ideas in real life. I do think they can have an ‘echo chamber’ effect and help promote the problem that a popular thing or opinion can be completely wrong, but to me that just means that upvotes/downvotes aren’t perfect, not that they should be completely discarded.

              https://jacobdesforges.com/you-should-quit-reddit-distribution-wide/

              Not sure what you want me to do with a link to a book, but I don’t even agree with the premise of the title sentence. Reddit is still very useful to me, and I know of no other place that replicates the variety of content, there.

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                  Ok, but I think you’re conflating two separate things

                  I feel like they’re distinctly separate things, and I thought I’d communicated as much. Oh, well.

                  …the voting system consistently produces pathological outcomes at scale.

                  That seems like… a little much. I do agree that upvotes/downvotes indeed gamify the system, but on the whole would say that the end-effect on Reddit results in a big bunch of hoomons acting in typical hoomon ways, which is with deep undercurrents of fickle, ignorant, selfish, feel-good behavior.

                  The Usenet comparison wasn’t really about scale. It was about the incentive structure.

                  Yeah, I get that, but I do observe that there are advantages to upvote/downvote that indeed work better on a larger scale. I’m not sure they’re really needed on a smaller scale.

                  I’d say I agree with most of the things you wrote, but remain unconvinced that upvote/downvote is so absolutely toxic as to merit tossing. And of course, I don’t think it’s going to happen, anyway.

                  Aggregate behaviour amongst naked apes? Yeah, I would tend to agree. Now what?

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        Depending on the topic, I know that if I sort by top, I’ll find my people at the top, or the bottom. So, it’s useful for that reason. This was more true on Reddit, but it happens here, too.

        Paying too much attention to the numbers I think will push people toward the normal take, whether we like to admit it or not. So, it’s best not to track your own stats too seriously. Just say your piece and let the chips fall where they may.

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      On a side-note, I think the past tense of yeet is yote. Good analysis nevertheless.

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      eggshells

      Many, especially political and news communities ban opinions that are mainstream in the Democratic Party because they aren’t left enough. If they are powermods, they will happily ban you from dozens of communities and instances.