• pyre@lemmy.world
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    add to the list of collaborators. the regime will fall, and some of these dinosaurs will be still living. there must be a reckoning.

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    Maine lugging around a record number of “Fell For It Again” awards with that POS senator.

    But better still is anyone who believed the “You need 60 votes to pass anything in the Senate” line we’ve been swallowing since Clinton.

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      Maine lugging around a record number of “Fell For It Again” awards with that POS senator.

      I’m not American so I’m probably missing something, but isn’t this a Republican who votes almost exclusively along party lines? So, a case of people getting exactly what they voted for?

      I’m not saying she’s not a despicable arsehole, but it doesn’t seem like she hides it.

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        She’s one of a few the Republicans have had strategically vote against the party when her vote wasn’t needed to pass a bill. Basically her, Murkowski, and for a while McCain, until he really bucked the party with the ACA vote and became a pariah until his death.

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          The strategy being “pretend you’re not an evil fuckface to get more votes”, presumably?

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            Yes, in competitive states, they when by playing the reasonable centrist that swears they are willing to stand up to their party…

            Never actually doing so when it could actually matter.

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        Partisanship is such a driving force in our politics that even someone who only bucks their party 4% of the time is considered “bipartisan”. I’ve seen reports in the media calling a vote “bipartisan” if it only gets two or three votes from the other side.

        And yes, it depends on that person’s reputation. Since Collins is seen as a moderate, all it takes is her support on a bill to call it “bipartisan”. OTOH, Senator Rand Paul frequently votes against the Republican party line, but only because he is a batshit crazy libertarian. He can vote against a Republican bill, and nobody calls that “bipartisan”, I guess because both sides think he’s nuts.

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          So the news here is “Rebellious Republican didn’t rebel against Republican bill”?

          Except “rebellious” means “still toes the line 96% of the time” and “Republican bill” means “whatever fucked up turd of an idea Trumps handlers have evacuated through that festering mouth-hole in his face”?

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            Yes, you understand that correctly. All I can say is that it wasn’t always this way.

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              I’m well aware - I have a pretty comprehensive understanding of American political history, albeit entirely gleaned from Day of the Tentacle, The Wire, and that Obama “HOPE” poster.

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        Collins regularly advertises herself as a moderate and makes a big show of complaining about the rest of the party to the media.

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    Fuck this old crone. Every one of these old establishment dems like schumer, pelosi and collins need to fucking die already. If you’re gonna sit in that seat and deny your constituents true representation until you die, then you might as well get it over with.

    Thanks for literally nothing, you useless, feckless coward.

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      No argument about Schumer, et al. But Collins isn’t one of them. She’s, in fact, part of the actual pedocon party.

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      She’s a Repedolican, but I can see why you’re confused because everyone likes to pretend she’s somehow less extreme than the other ones. She’s not, just puts on a little show of “being concerned” about things, but always votes right along with the rest of them.

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    She knows it gives her the best chance of being re-elected.

    Do these people think they’re going live forever? Something twists the minds of everyone who gains power. They become absolutely incapable of giving it up voluntarily.

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      Truly - What do they care about what happens after they’re dead? … They’ll be dead.

      They have no empathy towards anyone who will suffer the consequences because they won’t have to be the ones to deal with the fallout. “Fuck you, I got mine” is their entire strategy.

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    This is why no Republican should be allowed into office, ever.

    Even the “moderate” ones will betray America.

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      From the article.

      According to a recent scorecard, Collins has voted with Trump 96% of the time — the same rate as Mitch McConnell and two points above conservative Rand Paul.

      She’s as moderate as Mitch McConnell

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      Both of our parties are unconstitutional private organizations, and both have been bought long before we were born

      Democrats won’t save you

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        Meanwhile, Republicans are actively trying to kill you. Both sidesism only makes sense when both are equivalent threats, which is clearly not the fucking case.

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    Man, I’ll never fully understand what the fuck is wrong with Maine residents and their obsession with her.

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      I don’t know the situation in Maine, but being a deciding vote usually means you get a lot of concessions. It’s quite possible Maine residents get what they want from her via these concessions.

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        So bribery. Maine residents are okay with immoral national politics, as long as they get their kickbacks for making it happen.

        I’m thinking concessions for being the deciding vote should not be a thing.

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          I remember reading a study years ago that said people are more likely to support a leader who “plays dirty” because 1) they figure other leaders are doing the same so they must level the playing field, and 2) they can turn a blind eye to the misdeeds because it’s the leader doing it, not the voters.

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        What does someone in Maine get out of this? Maybe Collins is getting shit for it but the average person is getting fucked.

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          I don’t know this bill specifically, but bills have a lot of weird unrelated shit tacked onto them. Sometimes that stuff is state-specific stuff. There have been lots of cases where senators have opposed a bill but changed their tune after something specifically for their state was added. They can then brag about these wins during primaries.

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            Maybe we’re looking for nuance where there isn’t any, and the majority of Maine residents are just hateful and racist.

            Source: they keep electing Susan Collins

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              Maine residents are, as a whole, very nice people. Certainly a lot friendlier as a population than many other states I’ve spent time in. Calling them hateful and racist based purely on (by your own admission) their voting records is like saying the majority of US residents are MAGA because Trump got elected.

              Source: Previously lived there for 26 years.

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                Neat. I live in a Midwestern state, and people here are so nice and friendly there’s an expression about it.

                We’re also obviously hateful and racist though, because we keep voting for Trump and sending hateful, racist Republicans to Congress.

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          I don’t know, but Asheville NC got the Blue Ridge Parkway because their representative was the last vote needed for Social Security.

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        Not sure I’d give much credit to susie on this one. It’s more than likely filling her pockets.

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          That’s the answer right there. They’re voting for her because they like that she’s lining her own pockets.

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            I’m not suggesting residents of Maine are voting for her to line pockets. They seem to vote for her for whatever reason makes sense to them. She continues to believe certain people “have learned their lesson” and will do the honorable thing.

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      “I know who this is, but I don’t know who that is. People I know must be better.”

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        This was why I was fucking bummed when Biden got into the Democratic primary in '19. Name recognition >>> Younger, better options.

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      People are stupid.

      I call it the mitigating factor since so many things don’t make sense until we include it.

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    What this shit headline DOESN’T say is that this passing would require 60 votes, not a simple majority. Unless the GOP nukes the filibuster, which it doesn’t seem like many GOP-fuckwits like, they still won’t have the required votes to pass this.

    Still, this is sobering that they have her 50th vote, and couch-fucker Vance’s “have you even said thank you once” 51st vote, if it were truly a tie breaker scenario.