• Knightfox@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Eh, I don’t think comparing 2020 to 2024 is a fair comparison. In 2020 she was extremely disliked due to her political past and her general demeanor. In 2024 she had had several years out of the lime light and a concentrated effort to improve her image. If, from the get go, Biden had stepped out of the way, and the Democratic political machine had been behind her, I believe she would have had a better chance.

    We’re in a bit of the same situation now. Whoever is going to be the next candidate the party kind of needs to coalesce around now. They need to be having pre-primaries, they need to be publicaly building a candidate. If they wait until the primary season they will already be 3 years behind.

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      Eh I dont see a reason for anything like a pre primary. They just need to choose someone that the working and middle class will like. The issue with the dem party is that they have super votes that allow those with money to get more of a say in who is the dem candidate. That’s a HUGE issue because it leads to these mediocre candidates being chosen that won’t change anything. One of the big reasons why trump won was because the dems kept saying things are ok and that the status quo is fine but the issue is that it’s not. people are not making enough money and the rich keep getting more money. Trump was able to lie and say that he would fix the broken system this led to a lot of people voting for him because he atleast is saying he wants to change the broken system. The dems just need to choose the person that is popular and wants to change things to improve the lives of the people. Literally if someone ran on a plan to give Medicare for all, break of mega corps, and raise taxes on the rich they would easily win because those are very popular ideas across the country. The issue is that the dems won’t choose someone like that because their corporate donors and super voters will choose the boring person.

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        4 days ago

        I agree with the statement about supervotes, but I think if Democrats wait until the primary to find out who is their go to candidate they will lose too much time in leading up to the election. The Democrats need to pick a successor now to begin laying into Trump and his campaign so that when we get to the primary they are already being attacked. Right now the GOP has 2 years to pump Trump or JD while Democrats need to be pumping their candidate.

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          How would this pre primary work? Would it still be a vote or would the dems establishment choose it? Just based off of how the dem establishment is currently wanting. I dont think its would be a good idea for the pre primary because if it’s similar to how they are pushing Gaven Newsome then we will be in the same boat that we were in 2020 with a mid candidate that will only win because people are upset with trump not because people really want him

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            3 days ago

            You’re too hung up on the terminology. My point is that they need to put someone up now and begin pushing them, by the time we get to the primary that person should be such a forgone conclusion that the primary is barely necessary. This probably means the DNC would pick someone and it’ll probably be a shit choice for leftists, but the alternative is that we get to the election and they are tripping over their own feet like the last couple primaries.

            I’m not fond of Newsome either, but I would much rather have him than Vance or somehow Trump. The last thing I want is for the Democrats to fumble the next election because they weren’t organized and tried to decide who to support 7 months before the general election.

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              The DNC and their backers choosing the candidates are the main reason why the dems have struggled so much in the past two presidential elections because we ended up with candidates that were not very well liked(lessor of two evil situation) having the candidate chosen sooner and with less of a choice by the people will make this even worse because dnc will choose an even more out of touch person then they normally do. Having 7 months to introduce someone to a candidate is totally enough time just look at other countries and our own history of having fantastic candidates easily able to win because they were likeable