Oh for fuck sakes! C’mon lady! Sacrifice! Let a new face do it! There’s 300 million of us. I’m sure someone else can be better than you know who. Go do something else to help democracy. I’d vote Beyonce.
EDIT: if you say Hillary is your alternative then you’re smoking crack. This is an important question because the Democatic Party is the most likely group to succeed, so who then would you vote for if you had to decide? Geriatric Sanders? Centrist Newsome? Unlikely to be elected AOC? There’s a lot of people who could be candidates, but few who I feel confident could win.
I want the democrats to put forward a good slate of candidates, have them discuss issues in a reasonable and informative way, then have us vote on our favorite. There are people whose jobs are to know who would make a good candidate. Most people, myself included, don’t have enough information to say who should run. I do think that most people can name a few who they don’t want to run and I think Kamala and Hilary are both high on most people’s lists.
Someone saying “please don’t run Kamala” shouldn’t mean they need to offer an alternative. That is the job of the democratic party.
I 100% agree, but in the world we live in it feels like there are no decent alternatives. It feels strange to live in a world where no one seems to be able to think of a good potential candidate and we’re all just waiting for one to be shown to us.
It would be great if the media could quit trying to push Newsom down our throats, too. He’s not the absolute worst but I don’t want him as president. How about we quit calling him the “front runner” until we’ve seen who else might want the job?
Pritzker. Relatively progressive. Pro union, pro building up housing, pro worker’s rights, pro higher minimum wage, unrestrained in his support of lgbtq, and yet still Measured and budget conscious, which helps him be more palatable to the big stage.
I think he’s the best possible option that still has a good chance to win.
I think AOC is highly electable. Good speaker, good positions, attractive, not old. Vs Kamala bad speaker bad positions moderately attractive, not old and Hilary moderate speaker, bad positions, ugly, old. Vs Newsome good speaker, bad positions, attractive, not old. Vs Republican field bad speaker, bad positions, likely ugly or unattractive, racist(positive for their base) likely not old.
I think AOC fires up the left and gets out the vote (most important Democrat quality), the moderate left and centrist independents votes for her over the right, the moderate right stays home (moreso than normal) and the far right goes Republican
I hate to say it, but 2008, 2016, and 2024 have left me unconvinced that Americans are ready for even a potential woman President. It’s wrong, it’s prejudiced, but there hasn’t been sufficient evidence that American’s will support a woman for president. Republican’s predominantly seem opposed while Democrats are either unconvinced or insufficiently motivated. I think AOC could win her own state primary, but I’m not convinced she would beat Newsome or any male candidate in the conservative state primaries.
They were terrible candidates regardless of them being women. Nobody liked them. AOC is likeable if you don’t hate women and will get young people to vote. I don’t think there is any name or there right now that is likely to get more people to the polls than her.
Bring up a new face. Young 35y old dude with experience in law or administration. Start promoting him now, so he’s well recognized by the time of next presidential elections.
It’s tough to do this in the modern day because for them to have enough worthwhile experience they almost have to be in their late 40s. There are a few generally accepted routes to the presidency and legitimacy in them puts you at a fairly old person. You can go the executive route, someone who was a governor or military leader, or you can go the legislative route, Senator or Representative, or the third path of being generally unqualified.
Obama is a good example, he had a career (law degree, became an attorney, taught at the University of Chicago Law School, got married, had kids) before he then ran for the state legislature at 35. After being in the Illinois Senate for 8 years he ran for the US Senate and held that position for 4 years before being elected president at 47.
The Governor of Pennsylvania, Shapiro. The Jewish thing is the only hurdle in this country and maybe not even given how the anti-semites are now super pro-Israel.
Oh for fuck sakes! C’mon lady! Sacrifice! Let a new face do it! There’s 300 million of us. I’m sure someone else can be better than you know who. Go do something else to help democracy. I’d vote Beyonce.
Who would be your alternative?
EDIT: if you say Hillary is your alternative then you’re smoking crack. This is an important question because the Democatic Party is the most likely group to succeed, so who then would you vote for if you had to decide? Geriatric Sanders? Centrist Newsome? Unlikely to be elected AOC? There’s a lot of people who could be candidates, but few who I feel confident could win.
I want the democrats to put forward a good slate of candidates, have them discuss issues in a reasonable and informative way, then have us vote on our favorite. There are people whose jobs are to know who would make a good candidate. Most people, myself included, don’t have enough information to say who should run. I do think that most people can name a few who they don’t want to run and I think Kamala and Hilary are both high on most people’s lists.
Someone saying “please don’t run Kamala” shouldn’t mean they need to offer an alternative. That is the job of the democratic party.
I 100% agree, but in the world we live in it feels like there are no decent alternatives. It feels strange to live in a world where no one seems to be able to think of a good potential candidate and we’re all just waiting for one to be shown to us.
I’ll offer one, then. As a Coloradan, I’d vote for Joe Neguse.
Oh cool, I’ll look into him. We need informed voters to start talking about candidates now rather than in 2027.
It would be great if the media could quit trying to push Newsom down our throats, too. He’s not the absolute worst but I don’t want him as president. How about we quit calling him the “front runner” until we’ve seen who else might want the job?
Pritzker. Relatively progressive. Pro union, pro building up housing, pro worker’s rights, pro higher minimum wage, unrestrained in his support of lgbtq, and yet still Measured and budget conscious, which helps him be more palatable to the big stage.
I think he’s the best possible option that still has a good chance to win.
Thanks for the feedback, I’ll look into him!
I think AOC is highly electable. Good speaker, good positions, attractive, not old. Vs Kamala bad speaker bad positions moderately attractive, not old and Hilary moderate speaker, bad positions, ugly, old. Vs Newsome good speaker, bad positions, attractive, not old. Vs Republican field bad speaker, bad positions, likely ugly or unattractive, racist(positive for their base) likely not old.
I think AOC fires up the left and gets out the vote (most important Democrat quality), the moderate left and centrist independents votes for her over the right, the moderate right stays home (moreso than normal) and the far right goes Republican
Kamala had a LOT of issues. But her public speaking talent was not one of them.
I hate to say it, but 2008, 2016, and 2024 have left me unconvinced that Americans are ready for even a potential woman President. It’s wrong, it’s prejudiced, but there hasn’t been sufficient evidence that American’s will support a woman for president. Republican’s predominantly seem opposed while Democrats are either unconvinced or insufficiently motivated. I think AOC could win her own state primary, but I’m not convinced she would beat Newsome or any male candidate in the conservative state primaries.
Hilary and Kamala didn’t inspire the left AOC would.AOC could talk circles around Hilary and Kamala.
I think Pete Buttigieg is more likely to win than any of the women, sadly.
We will have an openly gay president before a woman
They were terrible candidates regardless of them being women. Nobody liked them. AOC is likeable if you don’t hate women and will get young people to vote. I don’t think there is any name or there right now that is likely to get more people to the polls than her.
I would really love to vote for an AOC-Bernie ticket.
Or Bernie-AOC
Bernie is too old
Agreed
Not Hilary either. Anyone. The neighbor Lady.
I was thinking of Marianne Williamson
Bring up a new face. Young 35y old dude with experience in law or administration. Start promoting him now, so he’s well recognized by the time of next presidential elections.
It’s tough to do this in the modern day because for them to have enough worthwhile experience they almost have to be in their late 40s. There are a few generally accepted routes to the presidency and legitimacy in them puts you at a fairly old person. You can go the executive route, someone who was a governor or military leader, or you can go the legislative route, Senator or Representative, or the third path of being generally unqualified.
Obama is a good example, he had a career (law degree, became an attorney, taught at the University of Chicago Law School, got married, had kids) before he then ran for the state legislature at 35. After being in the Illinois Senate for 8 years he ran for the US Senate and held that position for 4 years before being elected president at 47.
The Governor of Pennsylvania, Shapiro. The Jewish thing is the only hurdle in this country and maybe not even given how the anti-semites are now super pro-Israel.
Hillary Clinton