Repair goes mega mainstream with the launch of Lenovo’s new T-series business laptops, which earned our highest honor with a 10/10 repairability score.
Well they dont lol, they are super flimsy these days and most stuff is soldered on. Its good if this turns out to be the start of the return to good thinkpads, but i wouldnt get my hopes up yet.
What exactly is soldered on that shouldn’t be? If you want a processor that’s user replaceable, you should just get a PC. If RAM, SSD and the ports are user replaceable, that sounds pretty good to me.
Have you ever carried a laptop on actual travel? Like sprinting across a train station to catch your connection? You’ll definitely learn to appreciate a smaller lighter laptop.
My first laptop was a briefcase. There is such a thing as a happy medium. You could design light laptops that have replaceable parts, but they don’t do that because that would give choice back to the consumer and most manufacturers whole business model is to have you discard your computer and buy a brand new one every few years.
And how is having a socketed processor going to help with that? Even in Framework laptop, you have to swap out the motherboard. And even then, a laptop will never be something that lasts for decades. Technology moves on.
And how is having a socketed processor going to help with that?
which “that”? Obviously, it would increase repairability and longevity. it wouldn’t help with sales if you meant that, actually it’s likely that it would decrease sales because of longevity.
I’ve got two laptops, a personal one, and one from work. They’re both Lenovo laptops.
My personal laptop can be repaired, you can slip out the battery and replace it without even using a screw. There’s actually two batteries, one is internal and does require some screws to be removed but it’s not very difficult. Anyone who wants to can easily do that. The same goes for the fan and cooler, RAM, and SSD, network card, keyboard, screen, and trackpad. There’s probably a bunch of other things that can be easily replaced that I just haven’t looked into.
My work laptop is from 2022, so it’s about 4 years old now. It doesn’t have a second external battery. Opening it up is a bit tougher, and you can’t replace things as readily.
They have roughly the same dimensions, and weigh about as much. I don’t really see the added value to me as a consumer with this newer laptop.
The machine doens’t wobble because there’s an Ethernet plugged in. The flappy thing is just to maintain the curve. I dont think it even touches the table when plugged in.
I can’t speak to previous versions of the hinge port, but as a network engineer who is constantly using it I’ve had no complaints with the one from my 2024 model.
I wonder if this will shut up the “they don’t make them like they used to” crowd.
Edit: i knew that wouldn’t be the case. It didn’t need this thread as proof.
Well they dont lol, they are super flimsy these days and most stuff is soldered on. Its good if this turns out to be the start of the return to good thinkpads, but i wouldnt get my hopes up yet.
What exactly is soldered on that shouldn’t be? If you want a processor that’s user replaceable, you should just get a PC. If RAM, SSD and the ports are user replaceable, that sounds pretty good to me.
Why should it be?
Have you ever carried a laptop on actual travel? Like sprinting across a train station to catch your connection? You’ll definitely learn to appreciate a smaller lighter laptop.
My first laptop was a briefcase. There is such a thing as a happy medium. You could design light laptops that have replaceable parts, but they don’t do that because that would give choice back to the consumer and most manufacturers whole business model is to have you discard your computer and buy a brand new one every few years.
And how is having a socketed processor going to help with that? Even in Framework laptop, you have to swap out the motherboard. And even then, a laptop will never be something that lasts for decades. Technology moves on.
My T410 runs fine.
which “that”? Obviously, it would increase repairability and longevity. it wouldn’t help with sales if you meant that, actually it’s likely that it would decrease sales because of longevity.
I’ve got two laptops, a personal one, and one from work. They’re both Lenovo laptops.
My personal laptop can be repaired, you can slip out the battery and replace it without even using a screw. There’s actually two batteries, one is internal and does require some screws to be removed but it’s not very difficult. Anyone who wants to can easily do that. The same goes for the fan and cooler, RAM, and SSD, network card, keyboard, screen, and trackpad. There’s probably a bunch of other things that can be easily replaced that I just haven’t looked into.
My work laptop is from 2022, so it’s about 4 years old now. It doesn’t have a second external battery. Opening it up is a bit tougher, and you can’t replace things as readily.
They have roughly the same dimensions, and weigh about as much. I don’t really see the added value to me as a consumer with this newer laptop.
that’s what I wanted to ask but with PCs after your suggestion above
That’s what the T14s is for, no?
No socketed CPU, soldered WiFi chip, no PCMCIA slot.
At least it seems like the clit is still there.
Alright, Gramps. Let’s get you back to bed.
Not until everyone starts doing it. This used to be the norm.
I allready hate it. Just from looking at the pictures. Give me full size lan, i dont wabt my thinkpad wipping while typing, just so its 0.2cm thinner
The machine doens’t wobble because there’s an Ethernet plugged in. The flappy thing is just to maintain the curve. I dont think it even touches the table when plugged in.
So they fixed it? Nice.
wipping?
Like a table where one leg is longer than the other three.
“Wobbling”
Thank you!
That is not called “wipping”, that’s not even a word.
Maybe he meant whipping?
Then it would just be nonsense, and looking at their reply to other comments I doubt they ment whipping.
Whipping around is a regular idiom.
It means turning with suddenness.
It says full size rj45?
I can’t speak to previous versions of the hinge port, but as a network engineer who is constantly using it I’ve had no complaints with the one from my 2024 model.
The complaint about the one I have on my work ZBook is that removing the cable is more fiddly