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      It comes down to the definition of MAGA supporters.

      Let’s say everyone who voted for Trump gets deported.

      Now basically half or rather one third of America is gone… Well crime rates will drop definitely.

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    Nobody would want them though. Maybe we could move them all to Texas and let them be independent again.

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      We can always use more compost. May take a while, but then they’d actually be useful for something.

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    I just read this to my mom, and said “MAGAs commit WAY more crime than immigrants,” and she replied, “MAGAs commit way more crime than EVERYBODY.”

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    Please keep your domestic problems.

    Keep your mass shooting, keep your pedolover, keep your exceptionalism.

    The world is a way better place without your crazynes

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    I am reasonably confident that you can explain Trump’s 2020 election loss by way of the disproportionate number of COVID casualties and deaths in Red areas vs Blue areas.

    Basically, if Trump/MAGA had actually responded to COVID sensibly, as sensibly as Blue areas did, on average, accounting for population density…

    Trump would have actually won.

    But so many MAGA voters died or were disabled from voting, by COVID, that they instead lost, and then further went nuts, and didn’t believe it, and attempted an insurrection.

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      Trump won in '24 because of inflation. It’s that simple. People hated the economy under Biden and walked to ‘go back’ to the Trump years when things were better.

      And Harris didn’t basically told voters the economy is great let’s not change a thing… and most people who weren’t die hard liberal/leftists were disgusted by that because they saw prices going up and their wages staying the same.

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        Bullshit. Trump won because he, Musk, and Putin rigged the election, then MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries betrayed AMERICA, and let them get away with it, and EVERYBODY knows it.

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        Prices going up and wages staying the same?

        The same way it’s been for more than a decade?

        And this is the basis that people used to justify voting for Trump?

        People really are fucking stupid, aren’t they?

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        Ok.

        I was talking about 2020.

        The one before the one you are talking about.

        Also, most ‘die hard leftists’ were disgusted by Kamala’s pro-Genocide stance… the Dems did basically everything they possibly could to obfuscate and deny and/or justify that, leftists were fucking furious about it.

        And a pretty good deal of actual leftists were saying ‘all these economic numbers that politicians and the media are touting are bullshit, they’re incomplete, they are not reflective of reality’.

        And well now we have all the job revisions and yep that was correct, I think the BLS has now ‘un addded’ something like 2-3 million jobs between 2022 and present.

        You’re conflating liberals and leftists, which betrays that you have no idea what a leftist is.

        Its liberals that fall in line with standard corporate Dem talking points.

        Leftists tend to challenge and critique them.

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          corporate Dems have power, leftists don’t, and never will because they’d rather sit around bitching and whining and agonizing about what is ‘really leftist’.

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            Well its not like you’d have any understanding of what is or isn’t really leftist.

            Here’s a hint:

            Opposing massive government handouts to huge megacorporations.

            Opposing biased legal standards and tax structures that massively favor the wealthy being able to accumulate more wealth, at the expense of the poor.

            Opposing idiotic broad general tariffs that have historically and are currently exacerbating an ongoing Great Depression.

            But, fascists love doing all those things, because they are economically illiterate and/or openly, brazenly corrupt.

            And now, for more vocab, if you oppose these fascist policies, you are now anti-fascist, otherwise known as antifa.

            But fascists cannot comprehend the idea that anyone could disagree with them, and also have the gall to continue being alive, so they label everyone who does as a terrorist, and have lately started executing such people in the street.

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              Who does? You? Are you the only true leftists who determines who is truly a leftist?

              or is there a standardized test I have to pass? like a driver’s license test?

              What happens when the leftists become the fascists?

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                Sure, yeah, there’s a test.

                Papers please!

                Mhm, I see, yes, voted for the child murdering rapist pedophile conman.

                Ah.

                Not a great look.

                Anyway, you’e been expelled from the ‘Leftism Understander’ class due to being an obvious idiot troll, please collect your things or they will be equitably redistributed amongst the remaining students, according to their need.

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    I do truly wonder how many incarcerated people are Republicans / MAGA.

    I’d imagine it is a minority compared to people who support Democrats.

    Poverty creates crime.

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    Idk, with 55% of the population gone…the market plummet would happen and you’d be in the worst great depression Eva Eva eva.

    But dont let me ruin your fantasy!

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      We would also rid ourselves of the biggest social security and welfare leeches in the country so there’s that lol. Don’t forget we all pay for MAGAs stupidity in one way or another it’s a shared burden

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          According to USDA 37% of SNAP receipts are white and tend to be in red states so one could make an assumption or two. Of course hard to say for sure without voter data, so impossible to prove any of my incoherent ramblings. Take with grain of salt

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            White Americans are a larger share of the population, so the math has to reflect that. Context matters. And if we’re discussing support for low-income Americans, include all major programs: SNAP, Medicaid, TANF, housing assistance…not just selective data points.

            This isn’t about Trumpty dumpty. It’s about getting the numbers right.

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              Well then get the numbers right, lol. To begin with, there is no possible way that you truly believe that anywhere near 55% of this country is MAGA or maga supporters… especially after the way Trump is handling… everything. MAGA is just the whiniest and loudest right now. Yes, you do have the diehard people who overdose on copium saying “this is what I voted for!” but at this point, that component of it has to just be people who like that he made it okay to be wildly racist, and a pedophile.

              Also, an unknown number of them are completely fabricated via internet bots and propped up by Elon Musk via a wildly fictional election and voter numbers. MAGA is not real in any way. It’s almost all an illusion…smoke and mirrors type shit.

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                You’re stacking speculation on emotion. In 2024, Trump pulled nearly 50% of the actual popular vote, over 77 million real ballots. That’s nowhere near 55% of the country, but it’s also not bots or an illusion.

                Trump sucks, sure, but emotional blowhards like you keep costing us Dems elections with this extremism. Pretending real voters don’t exist isn’t strategy, it’s self-sabotage.

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          Even counting all who voted for them, as the voter turnout was 64%. I’m not sure how much of the population 100% would be with that voter registration system the US has (is 100% all registered voters or all that could in theory register), but even if 100% was all the population, it would only be around 35% MAGA voters

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      Whatever happened to that scam where they were going to send a bunch of people to live on Mars? Let’s revive that for them. But actually send them, say, to Venus.

      Edit: I have to laugh at the downvote. Were they mad because I said the Mars colony thing was a scam? Or were they mad at the thought of being deported? LOL

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        Can even turn Venus into an easier direct sell. It’s a lot bigger than Mars (more land = more money), actually has an atmosphere, is named after a Roman sex goddess, and is 100% free of communism (the USSR’s probes were destroyed).

        Sure, the scientists warn that the greenhouse effect causes Venus’s temperature to exceed 400°C on the surface, but they already know those scientists are full of shit because the greenhouse effect is fake news.

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      Yes.

      https://www.visaverge.com/legal/crime-rates-lower-among-undocumented-immigrants-than-us-natives/

      Evidence shows both undocumented and legal immigrants in the U.S. consistently have much lower crime and incarceration rates than natives across crime categories. This trend challenges popular beliefs and highlights the importance of accurate data for fair immigration and criminal justice policies, emphasizing immigrant contributions to safety.

      So, its literally true that if you deported all native born citizens and left only immigrants, the crime rate would go down.

      Thus, if you deport a subset of native born citizens, the same still applies.

      So this also means that mass deporting all immigrants, regardless of their actual criminal record… well that would necessarily increase the crime rate overall.

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        I really hope people continue to talk about this more, because this feels to me like it’s one of the most successful lies of the Trump admin (and, as I understand it, other right-wing nationalist movements around the world)