• ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    your “iranian friends” are pretty stupid for celebrating a war against themselves.

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        1 day ago

        the dictatorship here is the us empire and their war campaign.

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      There’s already a war against them by their own government that’s killed over 30,000 Iranians since late December. Civilians are being slaughtered either way, but this way means that maybe the Ayatollahs won’t be in power at the end.

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        Have you not learned from Iraq? There is always another mullah. Al Quida was replaced by ISIS. WTF are we involved with the ME anymore? I mean, all those ME nations bombed by Iran, who encouraged the US to enter this (besides our welfare state Israel), well where are their fucking militaries? I guess they paid the Trump family off and felt they had hired their military of the US so our sons and daughters can die for those MFs. Need I remind people we send Israel over 3.8 Billion every year from our tax dollars? so… USAID and VOA does not deserve our few millions but Benji gets the billions and more in crisis and now American deaths. For those that cite 19 fucking 79 hostages… understand, our enlisted were not even born yet. They have no memory of that. Also… most were not even born by 1983 either. And the fact is, the federal military policy allowed that shit to happen.

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        why would anyone celebrate any of this at all though.

        their government went nowhere, and there is now a foreign superpower bombing them.

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      i will not tell them how to think or feel. the old regime killed their families. the new regime will likely finish the job. iran, israel, the united states. none are working or fighting on behalf of the Iranian people. i will help them as they work to survive, but i will not moralize to them that they’re wrong to feel how they feel about things that impact them directly

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      especially considering that over 100 schoolgirls were murdered in the process.

      if a bomb killed 150 children and also took out Trump, I wouldn’t celebrate it

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            This world is full of evil, we have to be willing to take in what little good we can get for what it is until people start doing really better. If Operation Epstein kills 150 schoolgirls and Trump, I of course won’t be celebrating that 150 schoolgirls are dead, but also I’m not going to lie or omit that Trump dying is the only good thing coming out of that. What, you want me to lament that Trump is dead?

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        The deaths of children will forever prevent america from being a hero here. So we’ve just created a new enemy, likely a more cunning one than the last.

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          that’s the point. make sure there are always people who hate America with all their soul. so there’s always a justification for the US to be a military state.

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            2 days ago

            this is largely how we know i live in a terror state. america needs enemies to justify its continued imperial project so it will go out and manufacture them

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              when I say, cruelty is the point, this is why. that’s why they do family separation, what’s why ensure people suffer, both domestically and internationally. it’s an investment in future targets

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                reasons to resist fascism:

                1. basic fucking empathy, you shouldn’t need more you jackass
                2. oh? you need more you fucking sicko? fine. how about this. if the state is indescriminantly killing, it will only be a matter of time until it thoughtlessly kills you by “mistake”
                3. jesus christ, you still need convincing? my god. okay. here you go. you reap what you sow. in 20 years the children who see what you’re doing will be adults. there will be no forgiveness in their hearts for the parents, brothers, and sisters you killed. so maybe don’t give them a reason to hate you

                but fascist apologists lack empathy and they lack the critical thinking skills to be moved by the other two

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                  you can’t debate or convince them. best is ignore it and use that energy to build a better community without their input or consent.

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                    you give people the chance to adjust and then you tell them to fuck off however is the most likely to see them self reflect (shun, physical violence) or never bother you again

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      By this logic, then no one should celebrate the death of a serial murder if they are killed by a rapist.

      One bad person is dead. That’s good no matter how you cut it. Just cause the shit isnt over and there’s still bad people doesn’t mean we arnt happy things have improved.

      If you only ever settle for perfection then you might as well just let the pedos go uncontested. Cause you can’t stop all of them in one go.

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        He was going to die anyway. Why spend blood and treasure to murder a man who is 86 with a cancer diagnosis? Is critical thinking absent in our Pentagon? Yeah, lets get rid of this mullah… there are over a hundred other mullahs to take over for him. This is an established regime that has been in place for 50 years. 1 in 8 citizens in Iran work for the government… over 94 million population.

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        one bad person mostly westerners hate is dead, but now the biggest imperialist force is directly bombing, and want to regime change them. also reminding you their second target was schoolchildren.

        this is not like it’s kissinger dying of old age, or mussolini being lynched. this is fucking war.