Fox News host Sean Hannity dedicated a segment of his Thursday show to deliver a message to Pope Leo XIV, suggesting he and others at the Vatican had totally lost sight of the true meaning of the bible and its teachings.

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    3 days ago

    Catholics are not real “Christians”. So they dont believe in the Pope’s position or respect the Pope.

    I cannot fathom telling a guy who has dedicated his life to the church though that he doesn’t understand the bible. Then again that is the republican MO, if you think you know better than an expert clearly you do.

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      I’m going to be pedantic, but it’s the exact opposite of what you wrote. Catholics are a branch of Christians, who give more importance to the role of saints and the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, among other differences.
      So you should actually argue that they are not really Catholics, if they don’t recognize the authority of the Pope.

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        I had to read their comment a few times, but I think when they said “they,” they were referring to people like Hannity.

        Catholics are not real “Christians”. So they dont believe in the Pope’s position or respect the Pope.

        Like “according to people like Hannity, Catholics are not real Christians. Therefore, people like Hannity don’t believe in the Pope’s position or respect the Pope”

        Definitely a strange way to word it.

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        Catholics aren’t a “branch” of Christians, they are the tree itself. The first church, they dominated for many centuries, and still do, as this discourse proves; the Pope and church remain very influential

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      I mean the catholics have shaped all Christianity.

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          Yes they have, they dominated for many centuries, and are still the largest denomination.

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            Being the largest denomination does not mean they shaped all Christianity. In fact Christianity was shaped before the Catholics split, in the middle east and Asia Minor with Rome being a fringe player.

            Their later innovations were mostly left unadopted by the other half of the church and also caused a new split resulting in major intra-Christian religious wars. In fact since Catholics are merely a plurality and not a majority most Christians reject, frankly an understatement, the defining characteristic of Catholicism, papal infallibility.

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      The pope does understand the Bible, and he knows damn well that he’s misrepresenting it. That’s his job (and always has been).

      Read the Bible, see for yourself. If you are short on time, just read Revelation (the last book).

      p.s. my most hated comment ever! THANK YOU fuck the pope

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        This dude is fucking nuts. Revelation is easily the dumbest book of the bible to recommend.

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          Agreed.

          I mean, it’s my favorite book of the Bible. But it’s the most easily misunderstood and misinterpreted. The whole thing is an allegory written in a particular kind of prose, drawing on tropes common to a genre of writing scholars call “apocalypse.” But given that even lifelong Christians are unaware of this fact means that this is definitely not the book to recommend reading as an entry point. Unless you’re looking for inspiration for something to airbrush on the side of your bitchin’ van (hopefully one with a crescent moon bubble window on the back). Then by all means flip to the section right before the maps and get to sketching!

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            ABSOLUTELY. I love the book of Revelation, but too many don’t understand how to read apocalyptic literature, nor do they understand the source material to contextualize the heavy symbolism. I blame a ton of the dumbshit premillenial dispensationalism crudely hobbled together to resemble a form of eschatology on a poor understanding of Revelation, Dallas Theological Seminary for spreading the fuck out of it, and Schofield for being the dipass to keep it from remaining the obscure hallucinogenic ramblings of a (probably) sick pentecostal woman in England. Man there are so many cool things about the theology of hope and some strong influences of Stoic philosophy(again), but man does American theology love to fetishize about the unbelievers facing a gruesome divine genocide…

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              I don’t really consider myself a Christian anymore, but I have read the bible during the time I did. The only people I ever knew who were way into revelations were fucking stupid ass old people like my wife’s grandfather who was a miserable vindictive old man who had no admirable traits whatsoever. He was also definitely not aware of the intended meaning, he just like the shit about non-believers finally getting theirs.

              Reading that book without the context of other books of the bible and like Paul’s writing in particular is just plain stupid. But I think understanding of also kind of requires other theological understanding.

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                Reading that book without the context of other books of the bible and like Paul’s writing in particular is just plain stupid.

                Knowing the context makes it worse in my opinion, but you do you.

                You know what’s really stupid? Thinking Jesus is a beacon of peace, He’s horrifying. If you can’t handle Him murdering everybody in a rage, you can’t get through the Bible anyway.

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                  This is a pretty silly take. Look, I’m an atheist myself and I’m someone who is of the opinion that religion has been a net negative for humanity, but I also know pretty well what I’m talking about when it comes to Christian theology, eschatology, and biblical principles, and I can tell you don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to this subject. There’s plenty to be critical of the Bible about, but you haven’t really hit any of the points at all. If you don’t know the subject very well, you probably shouldn’t form such strong opinions on it.

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                    You saying it’s a silly take is ignorant and misinformed.

                    I know what I’m talking about too, with over a decade of Christian education from three denominations and many years of Bible studies besides. Your education was apparently shit, I hope you didn’t pay for it!

                    Perhaps you should study some more so you can catch up with me?

                    Jesus will murder everyone who won’t submit to Him on His return. This is a FACT, no opinion involved… according to the Bible, anyway.

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          It’s the only “cool” book the rest is boring nonsense.

          The only people I have ever heard qout revelations, are nutters, and people trying to get money. It reads like biblical fanfic.

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        Yes, please, read the apocalyptic fever dream of a crazy man as proof that god exists. I’m totally convinced!

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          The Bible permeates the USA and its government, it’s very useful for understanding why things are the way they are.