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Cake day: July 12th, 2023

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  • People don’t like to look at this dimension. They just like to talk about how seeking out porn is natural and normal for teens. I’ve seen a few people around Lemmy make this claim as an argument against doing anything about how we handle pornography in the modern world.

    They don’t want to consider the fact that unfettered access to porn from puberty impacts how a whole class of people engage with the world, and with others. Impacts how they socialize, how hard they try in seeking out partners. Etc. It’s a deep subject that just gets dismissed for a variety of shallow reasons.








  • I don’t mean to imply any sort of assessment of your intelligence or care in thinking. I’m mostly calling out over broad generalizations.

    And I understand where you are coming from on moderating speech. But I also feel that until better solutions are devised, and the ramifications of unchecked noise are well understood, that moderation on digital platforms is needed. And that digital spaces can’t just be treated as if they are not “real spaces” with boundaries circumscribed. I feel people have the right to build and maintain spaces for specific styles and structures of discourse.

    And this comes into conflict with ideas of censorship.

    Analogy: But I’m not censoring you if I exclude you from my book club meetings that you attempted to participate in at the public library. I am curating the space I have built, and the way you attempted to participate was disruptive, or incongruous with the intent of the group.

    In any case. I’m not trying to tell you you are wrong. But I do think that mega-scale platforms like Reddit and Twitter and others of that scale intrinsically have to function at a different level.

    What was once a space that people like yourself could be free to be provocative, and shit post, and push difficult ideas has become a space where there are innumerable people like you who build up what ends up being noise. Your style of discourse is probally better suited to smaller spaces. IMO.

    It’s a difficult problem. And I think you know that. And you are just arguing your side. I’d just suggest not being too overly broad, and uncharitable.



  • I don’t like to be that broad about things. This is because I know how difficult it is to do moderation. There are so many shitheads in the world who will disrupt curated spaces. They ruin it for everyone, and that leads to needing strict policies that otherwise wouldn’t be needed in a more civil space.

    But with the r/ufos, I’m down with calling out their over moderation and terrible justification for removing many things. And in their case, it’s because they are trying to insulate themselves from the flood of attention they are getting post pandemic era from people who poke their head in, realize how much bullshit is going on in the scene, and then point it out.

    Over the past six years the sub has seen a steady increase in people who are not just there to listen to story time. And these new people are fed up with the nonsense, and they call it out. And this isn’t being a team player. People want their story time. The people in control of the sub don’t want critical opinions to outnumber those of the belivers.

    So yeah. I’m not on the side of broadly talking shit about moderators across the platform, or any platform. That’s stupid.

    You know who sounds like you do here? r/ufos people who try to post UFO grifter slop on r/politics or r/science. They sound just like you, even though they are posting trash in subs that must have strict moderation lest they become overrun with nonsense and noise. Those subs get sooo much traffic. Etc. etc. etc.