• GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    How would you protect the rights that go with marriage if you abolish marriage? Those include the right to visit your spouse in the hospital, right to attend spouse’s funeral, right to name spouse for inheritance purposes with legal weight, right to live in the housing you shared with your spouse after your spouse dies, right for your spouse to make medical decisions should you be unable to make those decisions, and others that I may be overlooking.

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      6 days ago

      You can do paperwork for these things. Marriage is convenient though. We need laws that just say “yeah I trust my friend/relative to decide for me” like a non marriage

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        5 days ago

        Paperwork didn’t help the partners of AIDS victims who were kept out of the hospital and heard of their partner’s passing via the obituaries and then kicked out of their house.

        Even today, there are families who would separate sane sex partners and do the same awful things. Marriage guarantees rights, paperwork does nothing to stop the horrible people in our lives that would lash out at the first chance.

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        6 days ago

        You can do paperwork for these things

        Please explain to me how exactly could I “do paperwork” to restore, for example the spousal communications privilege and the spousal testimonial privilege that would both be taken away from me if my marriage was dissolved.

        And do you really expect people to just start pre-emptively filling out paperwork to notify every single hospital they might possibly ever end up in after some major health issue, that would allow their spouse to visit them, particularly if it’s a hospital in an area hostile to queer folks?

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          5 days ago

          Please explain to me how exactly could I “do paperwork”

          You enter into a contractual union that is recognized by the federal government.

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          5 days ago

          I get your point. I’m saying these should extend past marriages.

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      4 days ago

      Your recognized “union” provides all of those rights and goes to any level of detail you wish. For example, imagine a union, will, POA, all wrapped up into one.

      • GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world
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        The laws for POA would have to change to allow for such a union. There would have to be some kind of protection for wills as well, because there are going to be fights from people against the LGBTQ community.

        If all marriages were dissolved and became unions, that might work. Otherwise, it would be a separate but equal thing.