While looking for Discord alternatives I came across this project which looks like a great alternative for the kinds of Discord servers centered around Open Source projects and organizations. Ones where live chat and voice rooms aren’t the focus.
It’s a combination of forums and knowledge base that would be perfect for this use case.
thank you for sharing my product here! I grew up on forums, it’s somewhat of a love letter to the mid 2000s I spent many hours of my youth with, happy to answer any questions on the project!
Could you give us a brief overview of the use of AI in the production of Storyden? Like which components are ai-assisted, and to what degree?
I think this is the main sticking point people have with the project, especially since it is apparently in use but it’s not super clear how.
sure, so I use a ton of codegen and hand-write the openapi schema, jsonschemas and database model, I use AI often to write the mapping/binding boilerplate that goes between the outside-to-inside world (database stuff to queriers/writers and http handlers to actual logic) then I write the logic itself as well as the end-to-end tests. I find language models work very well once you have a clear set of constraints/boundaries such as a clear api contract + generated types or a set of tests that define the behaviour. I use a mix of claude and codex. Claude I find works well for exploratory/experimental work (a ton of the new plugin system was R&D so claude helped set up and tear down a bunch of potential implementations and ideas) codex is a lot less interactive and doesn’t seem to play well with creative r&d style exploratory workflows, so I use that one more for well planned out features using the codegen mentioned before.
while I somewhat understand the “sticking point” it allows me to work faster and focus on the more enjoyable side of the craft i’ve honed for almost 20 years. While it’s still not a super popular project and a couple of friends sometimes help, it’s just me doing it so the AI helps a lot when I only have a couple of hours a night to work on it!
outside of pure code, I used a combination of very early generative imagery models (circa 2022 I think) for the hero art, which started life as a sketch, scanned in, with some iterations on Dall-E (back when it was an app before chatgpt absorbed it) and a few hours painting and expanding in photoshop with my wacom. for future art on blog posts and such, I’m keen to commission a human artist for future marketing assets (in case you know anyone!)
and I think finally, lots of exploratory discussion with chatgpt on api design, http semantics, cross-browser cookie behaviours, boring stuff like that… very useful!
do you think it would be worth including some blurb about how ai tools are used in the readme for this kinda crowd who are understandably skeptical of many open source projects now due to irresponsible usage of ai?
I think a blurb would be a great idea, especially for your project.
I feel like the biggest hurdle for your project is that the people it speaks to, especially the way you market it (analogues to natural, organic things like plants, the purposeful methodology intrinsic to gardening, as well as the nostalgic throwback to a simpler time of the internet when everything was more hand-made and deliberate) are the same people that will be put off by AI, being that it’s the antithesis of those things.
Making your case for why and how it’s used, (IE Not just vibe-coded slop but something that matters a little more to you) might be enough to keep people on board, and maybe give it an honest try.
hmmmm seems to deploy fine but when I try to register a new account (per the setup instructions) I just get an unknown error.
The concept is promising, as I said before I’ve been wishing for an integrated forum/wiki for a while now, but it seems like it’s very early days for this project.
The AI stuff has me bristling though. Not a fan.
hey, would love to know what that error was if you have any logs or can remember, and any feedback is truly welcome!
It mentions many AI features. Is this vibe-coded?
From what I can tell the author uses AI assistance in creating API endpoints and some front end styling, based on some clause code agent files in the repo. Whether that is for prototyping client changes after making backend changes, or thats what winds up in the official client, I cannot say. It’s a good thought though as it’s not really mentioned on the main site.
From reading his blog he seems to be not be yet another AI bro and I sort of agree with his position on the ultimate usefulness of AI. There is little to no AI generation implemented in the app, it seems mostly designed as a search function and is optional.
Looks like the pictures are also AI generated?
imo this line of questioning will become increasing irrelevant, coding might just be the best thing about AI, you’re going to find fewer and fewer projects hand crafted
Depends heavily on use. If it’s only for completion or for tedious tasks or for ideas, then yeah it’s fine. But if it’s a fully vibe-coded app it brings into question wether the author has the skill to maintain and keep developing the project.
That’s why it should be asked, or even better, just answered in the README.
Will have to look into this. Been saying for a while that a wiki-forum combo would make sense, since a forum slowly becomes a repository of knowledge, if not generally then at least for its members, and a less linear and more browsable way to catalog that knowledge would make sense. You can set up a separate wiki server but then you have two things to manage and moderate.
The marketing mixes metaphors, talking about gardening, growing, curating… all part of sustainable process that includes plants dying.
It also uses words like forever and permanent.
Having content live forever is at odds with metaphors of the natural world, where things naturally die.
I think the metaphors refer to different aspects of the project. The gardening refers to a more deliberate, small scale, cultivated experience tailored to your community, which is opposed to commercial factory farms that produce a monoculture on a massive scale for profit.
The permanence refers to the fact that you own and control the data, so you are in control of its lifecycle, not a third party that could kill it at their discretion.
Love this… Will take a spin for my OpenAstra
Mind, seems to be vibecoded.
Hey 👋 creator of storyden here! it’s a labour of love that started long before “vibecode” was a word, almost 4 years ago now! I do use some language-model tooling now, but not anywhere close to blind-push-to-prod “vibe coding” :)
So?
It’s 2026, being vibecoded is a self-explanatory problem.
Well, I have seen so many classic coders write shitty unmaintainable and insecure code that I don’t think that NOT being vibe coded mean anything.
It’s like the difference bewteen publicly-traded and privately-owned companies. Publicly-traded companies are guaranteed to enshittify due to fiduciary duty. Privately-owned companies could enshittify, but it’s not guaranteed.
A human programmer could be shit but at least they’re not guaranteed to be shit like the vibe coding AI
I like the analogy…
But at the end of the day better to have something that starts shitty but can be improved over time rather than nothing.
If it stays shitty, then it’s just shit and won’t go anywhere.
And how is it supposed to get less shit if it’s vibe coded? The programmer didn’t learn anything when making the initial build
Some kind of weird WebGL error on their site I’ve never seen before.
Doesn’t load for me.
LibreWolf doesn’t seem to be offering to activate canvas.
Oh well.
Same for me, why does a forum software need webgl?
You mean why does the site for a forum software need webgl, by which the only reason I can think of is tracking visitors somehow. It’s not like the background landscape on the site is dynamic or something.
i added a dumb globe thingy and some useless effects in a mania of creative chaos, not felt a spark of creativity in ages and hate the current site, but you’re right this was stupid, i removed the useless webgl stuff and made it simpler, thanks for the feedback!
Thanks!
It’s not so much about wholly removing webgl contrasted to at least having some sort of fallback that allows the site to be experienced, but thanks again for at least tackling the change.
yeah I’m usually disciplined with progressive enhancement but not this time, should have been a .webm or .gif lol
Application error: a client-side exception has occurred while loading www.storyden.org (see the browser console for more information).Exactly same error for me. I’m glad there are such indicators so I don’t have to waste my time on such a crappy overcomplicated design.
