• tea@lemmy.today
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    5 days ago

    Europe being on a different continent than Asia always seemed like bullshit. I can forgive the isthmuses, but Eurasia feels like it’s a thing to me.

    • ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
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      5 days ago

      But then you run into the issue that the very concept of continent was invented to differentiate Europe and Asia (and Africa).

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        4 days ago

        Eh, words change and sometimes terms outlive their etymology or grow beyond it. We “hang up the phone” but no phone these days is actually hung up. 🤷

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          4 days ago

          That’s literally the same thing, we kept the expression even when we know it isn’t accurate any more, because we still have the need to express the original meaning.

          If anything, we should split Asia in more subcontinents.

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            3 days ago

            Informally, we kinda do. Middle East, East Asia, South East Asia, South Asia.

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            4 days ago

            Yeah, fair enough.

            Still seems like, with the way that continent is typically defined, Eurasia should be the continent with subcontients of Europe, Asia, India, and the Middle East.

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      4 days ago

      The Romans divided the world into three equal landmasses before they understood how it was actually laid out and it stuck.

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        4 days ago

        Definitely not the Romans. It may have stuck because of them, but the Greeks divided the world that way long before Rome left Italy.

    • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Well by that logic then Europe ,Asia and Africa are all one continent. Just because someone dug a fucking suez ditch does not make them any less connected.

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        3 days ago

        Since continent doesn’t have a strict definition, in my book, giving the isthmus of suez (and the isthmus of panama) a pass makes sense. Both of those were historically very difficult to traverse and not viable sustained trade routes compared to just sailing around them. Hell, there’s still not a road that links North and South America through the Darian Gap, which is wild to me considering what seems like should be a vital connection point bottleneck.

        I understand “continent” a mercurial word and so people can define Europe and Asia as being different contients, but it does seem like it’s the only continental division that doesn’t make logical sense to me.

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          3 days ago

          Well I guess. But there is a bridge across the suez and by a similar kind of logic you could split europe into 2 ‘continets’ because of the donau-main kanal. Same thing as the panama one as far as I am concerned.

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            3 days ago

            I think of it more as if you were to give a pen to an alien child and said “draw a circle around the main landmasses on this planet” they would probably logically draw circles around North America, South America, Eurasia, Africa, Australia, and Antarctica. They wouldn’t look at the Ural Mountains or any sort of canal systems, just “these are the main blobs on this world map.”

            But that’s just the way I think of continents. 🤷‍♂️

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              3 days ago

              I guess. But in my mind still main landmass would encompass anything connected to it. So if you were to look at the earth before we built all those canals there would be like 4 continents. I don’t personally think small things like a canal would be enough to actually separate 1 continent into 2. It would have to be quite a bit of distance for that to make sense. Like if the entire canal was the width and depth of the gulf of suez then yes, we have made a new continent.

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      3 days ago

      Sometimes things are defined by history, inertia, earlier understandings. There are six continents, because there’s always been six and it would be overly pedantic to find objective criteria with today’s understanding …… unless you want another Pluto controversy.