Multiple game creators describe ineffective moderation on the platform, resulting in unchecked hatred in forums and targeted campaigns of negative ‘anti-woke’ reviews
This encouraged others to post further reviews and comments related to Kirk (and not the game).
Do we have any proof those reviews were from people following that curator? I imagine that information has also been posted elsewhere online.
Do you think off topic reviews or curator recommendations should be allowed for things you approve of? Say if a review points out the developer is a secret fascist?
Yes, I also blame the poor indie dev who barely gets enough money to keep existing
Oh please, moderating a forum unpaid for 5 mins every now and again is so easy it’s how this whole platform and Reddit function. If you’re truly an indie dev without the resources to moderate your own space, Steam allow you to simply close the forums and forbid discussions.
Do we have any proof those reviews were from people following that curator? I imagine that information has also been posted elsewhere online.
Why does that curator exist in the first place? Why are those reviews still up?
Do you think off topic reviews or curator recommendations should be allowed for things you approve of? Say if a review points out the developer is a secret fascist?
Great comeback! I really love whatabaoutism.
Oh please, moderating a forum unpaid for 5 mins every now and again is so easy it’s how this whole platform and Reddit function.
Please, kindly refrain from talking about things you know jack shit about.
If you’re truly an indie dev without the resources to moderate your own space, Steam allow you to simply close the forums and forbid discussions.
Steam forums are a resource for devs to interact with the community, get feedback, etc…
Closing them means losing a resource. What you suggest is that devs big enough to employ a community manager should have access to that resource, while small/solo devs should just accept that they can’t have it. Sounds like second class citizen treatment to me.
It would be a lot easier if Steam got their shit together and started moderating their online spaces, which is something they should’ve been doing this whole time.
That’s not whataboutism because it is a related question. You can’t make a global rule dependent on taste so if you are against these you have to be against someone being outed as fachist too. Either you allow reviews about the developer or you don’t
“Steam has a problem with moderation, these are hateful reviews that have been reported but ignored by Steam support team”
“But what about fascists?”
The original user didn’t answer and ran with their tail between their legs, because they didn’t want to admit that Steam has a problem with moderation.
No this is the exact exception from it “there are reviews which have stuff about the developer in it we should not allow it”
“Do you think the same when a developer is a fascist”
This is literally not whataboutism. The comments they want to have removed are not hateful. Because the hateful ones where removed. “The developer made fun of the death of Charlie Kirk” is not a hateful comment just a fact. Just because that fact does not matter to you or me does not make it less of a fact.
“This developer is a fascist” is more hateful then the stated review above.
To be even more strict you yourself have indirectly commented on this being political
it makes very specific examples (with links) to specific games that have received negative reviews for things unrelated to the game at hand, such as antisemitism and political
So it is not whataboutism to point to other political things where steam reviews are also political and ask about them. The correct answer from you to stay in line with your argument would have to be also these, but you don’t want to do that.
“The developer made fun of the death of Charlie Kirk” is not a hateful comment just a fact.
“This developer is a fascist” is more hateful then the stated review above.
Do we have any proof those reviews were from people following that curator? I imagine that information has also been posted elsewhere online.
Do you think off topic reviews or curator recommendations should be allowed for things you approve of? Say if a review points out the developer is a secret fascist?
Oh please, moderating a forum unpaid for 5 mins every now and again is so easy it’s how this whole platform and Reddit function. If you’re truly an indie dev without the resources to moderate your own space, Steam allow you to simply close the forums and forbid discussions.
Why does that curator exist in the first place? Why are those reviews still up?
Great comeback! I really love whatabaoutism.
Please, kindly refrain from talking about things you know jack shit about.
Steam forums are a resource for devs to interact with the community, get feedback, etc…
Closing them means losing a resource. What you suggest is that devs big enough to employ a community manager should have access to that resource, while small/solo devs should just accept that they can’t have it. Sounds like second class citizen treatment to me.
It would be a lot easier if Steam got their shit together and started moderating their online spaces, which is something they should’ve been doing this whole time.
That’s not whataboutism because it is a related question. You can’t make a global rule dependent on taste so if you are against these you have to be against someone being outed as fachist too. Either you allow reviews about the developer or you don’t
It’s the dictionary definition of whataboutism.
“Steam has a problem with moderation, these are hateful reviews that have been reported but ignored by Steam support team”
“But what about fascists?”
The original user didn’t answer and ran with their tail between their legs, because they didn’t want to admit that Steam has a problem with moderation.
No this is the exact exception from it “there are reviews which have stuff about the developer in it we should not allow it”
“Do you think the same when a developer is a fascist”
This is literally not whataboutism. The comments they want to have removed are not hateful. Because the hateful ones where removed. “The developer made fun of the death of Charlie Kirk” is not a hateful comment just a fact. Just because that fact does not matter to you or me does not make it less of a fact. “This developer is a fascist” is more hateful then the stated review above.
To be even more strict you yourself have indirectly commented on this being political
So it is not whataboutism to point to other political things where steam reviews are also political and ask about them. The correct answer from you to stay in line with your argument would have to be also these, but you don’t want to do that.
Ok.