• thewebroach@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Both meters and seconds are units of Earth specific measures of space and time. Pretty sure at a cosmic scale god would give fuckall about how we measure and name our shit

    • icelimit@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      Actually most constants have been standardized to natural sources. A meter is now a fixed (small) fraction of the speed of light in vacuum. A second is pegged to the duration of a Cesium isotope spinning or something. Just that the multipliers are chosen to be convenient to us.

      Should we need to talk measurements with aliens, we can, and can convert between their units and ours.

      • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
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        8 months ago

        SI being capable of interspecies translation is an interesting thing I hadn’t considered.

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          8 months ago

          What’s more profound is that math is universal - after some teething pains with regards to understanding conventions, any alien technology should be comprehensive by us, and vice versa.

    • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      8 months ago

      It’s neat to think about what units an alien civilization would come up with independently. Like the Plank Distance is fundamental to physics, so they’d probably have something for that.

      Degrees Celsius is based on freezing and boiling point of water, so if they came up with a base 10 numbering system and water is key to their biology, then they’d probably come up with that.

      A calorie is the energy needed to increase the temperature of 1L of water by 1C. A liter is a volume of a cube 0.1m on each side. The meter was originally ten-millionth of the distance between the equator and north pole (and subsequent redefinitions are based on that original measurement). They wouldn’t come up with the meter, and they wouldn’t come up with liters or calories, either.

      • VoterFrog@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Hopefully they’d come up with a better numbering system than base 10. Base 10 is the worst part of metric tbh.

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          8 months ago

          Every base is base 10 dumdum

          0, 1, 2, 10, 11, 12, 20, 21…

          e: starting at 0 to not shame programmers.

      • MasterOKhan@lemmy.ca
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        8 months ago

        Water’s boiling point and freezing point depends on the pressure of the local atmosphere unfortunately! But I like your logic.

      • TheFogan@programming.dev
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        8 months ago

        Degrees Celsius is based on freezing and boiling point of water, so if they came up with a base 10 numbering system and water is key to their biology, then they’d probably come up with that.

        Waters boiling point isn’t a constant though… it’s dependent on the atmosphere.

        Hell there’s also no telling if our preference to base 10 is relative to our number of fingers so neither of those are givens.

    • 4am@lemmy.zip
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      8 months ago

      If a god existed and gave a so much of a shit about our masturbatory habits he’d be at least tangentially aware of what the fuck a meter was.

      • Art3mis@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        For a second i thought you were calling the metric system masturbatory and then i remembered that christians really do think god watches them jork it. Kinky