• LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz
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    my neighbor hood has one right at the entrance. I make a point of flipping it off every time i pass it. Also, If you were curious how many of these violations of privacy are around you. Here you go- https://deflock.org/map

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      18 hours ago

      Everyone should start 3d printing faces of Epstein and take them everywhere they go

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      No curiosity here. I just assume I’m being monitored everywhere I go now, though I keep my phone in a faraday bag when I’m not using it, so that at least is something.

      All a person can do now is manage the problem incrementally. I love the idea of people sabotaging doorbell cams though.

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        This is too defeatist for me. I am upset to see these all over town, but too small minded to do anything about it. I want to start something to pressure community leaders to change, but i worry that i’ll make a lot of noise then drop it like i do with everything. I’d love to join with a group.

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          Follow that link above. There’s a few great online communities around this. One involves keeping these camera out of places that don’t have them yet, for example.

          Check out Benn Jordan and Louis Rossman on YT as they are two people spearheading this from a social standpoint. Louis specifically regularly provides links to contacting your legislators about it, including things to say to them. It’s faster and easier than you’d think to do.

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          18 hours ago

          A black trash bag, a roll of duct tape, and a ladder are not destructive but still very effective.

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            Just be aware, many of these cameras have multiple other cameras pointing at eachother. Also the map cant be trusted to show all cameras. my neighborhood alone, has at least 4 that dont show up on the map.

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              Multiple black trash bags, then.

              Also, if you know of some that aren’t mapped (and are actually flock cameras, not city) you should add them.

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          On a macro scale I do think the privacy ship has sailed. Seeing the leaked illegal footage in the Guthrie case confirmed that the big tech companies are spying on us, storing the footage permanently, and leaking it to the government covertly upon request. I don’t think it’s unfair to presume that both ruling parties know and love this, which means we’re never turning back that clock.

          On the local level, though, change is still eminently possible. I actually drafted an email to my HOA this morning about getting these doorbell cams banned in my building.

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            both ruling parties know and love this, which means we’re never turning back that clock

            Stop this defeatist attitude. Yes, the Democrats are working for the ruling class. That doesn’t mean we’re so over, it just means we have to adapt our strategy. “Vote blue no matter who” is a dead strategy. Electoralism itself is at best harm reduction. We need to build a new movement from the ground up for the working class.

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            Yeah, I don’t think it’s reasonable to give up in the face of it.

            You should make it as hard as possible for them to track you, use private OpenSource software, advocate for it and don’t be afraid if direct action, like destroying these cameras. The more people that do it, the harder it will be for them to do something about it.

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              Oh, I do.

              I just don’t trust the majority to do anything meaningful themselves. It’s why recycling doesn’t work and why Democrats and Republicans keep getting elected. Our only power now is local.

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                Yup. And also we should advocate for our rights more locally. Organize with other people, raise awareness and do direct action.

                I think the most effective form of resistance is relationships and new local organisations and new structures that resist the forces of the state and of capitalism.

                If you are looking for some ideas, maybey you can look here or do your own research.

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            Can you share the email draft? How does one convince a bunch of (most likely) MAGA morons to restrict doorbell cams? They love surveillance and ICE.

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        Ehh then your destroying a persons property. And they might not know how bad they are.

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      Well, that’s actually better than I thought. I wonder if Seattle got rid of them? Home Depot (Pieces of Shit) and an Amazon building that overlooks the interstate seem to be the only ones in Seattle proper.