• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 days ago

    I’m not convinced that there’s anywhere near as many straight people as straight people pretend there are. It’s gotta be closer to like fifty-fifty split between straight and bi/pan/ace/and so on.

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      Sexuality exists on a spectrum, imo. There are a few people who are totally straight, a few who are totally gay, but the vast majority fall somewhere in the middle. I do not feel that sexuality is a binary for most people. Of course, I could be completely wrong. I’m no scientist.

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        I know everyone says it, but labels are pretty useless.

        Even terms like “masculine” and “feminine” hold so much dumb baggage they’re both functionally useless.

        I know guys who want to be subservient to pretty girls, and girls who want stocky girls to dominate them.

        Sexuality doesn’t fit neatly into boxes, even in the best of circumstances - so much of it is contextual, and is pointless to attempt to pin down.

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          Labels are just succinct words/phrases that try to give people some approximate idea of where we fall on a handful of vast spectrums. They’re not meant to be 100% accurate.

          I’m probably pansexual, but I tell people I’m bi because that’s a word most people are familiar with. And even then I’m like 80-90% into women. So I don’t really fit neatly into the bisexual box, but that label conveys enough relevant information.

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          No, I’m his Mexican half brother, twice removed. I’m José Colorado. Nice to meet you!

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        Yeah this is what I’ve always thought.

        I believe I’m straight but if a guy presented feminine enough I’d be attracted to them. Only problem is I don’t like penises but if you can hide it I’m all in

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      I struggle to believe that anyone is 100.00% straight or gay. Like, really? You’re straight, sure… But there’s not one person? One situation? One perfect storm of circumstances where you’d try swinging the other way just a little bit?

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        Trust me, it is very frustrating to be around people who you would gladly fuck your brains out, but your brain is like “eww”.

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        Personally, there is not one person in the gender I’m not attracted to that even vaguely seems interesting that way.

        Might as well be thinking of grasshoppers or something.

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      I’m not even convinced we really managed to universally agree to uniform definition of what straight actually is. As long as that’s the case people, who want to be "normal“, will just stretch and twist the definitions to fit in, if they can fit in that way.

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        That’s a problem with everything though. No matter what definition for something you come up with, even if most of population agrees with it, you’d have aggresively vocal minority that will try and push it other way to conform it to their perception/goals etc.

        Straight means that, for example, as a man you are sexually attracted only to women. Already met people who dragged it into the “feminine people” camp instead and people who dragged it into “feminine women” camp. I tend on the other hand to stick into the tried and tested too much so I find both irritating xD

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          I more had “only/exclusively” vs “mostly/usually” in mind. But yes. There is also the question of whether its about gender or sex; homo-hetero being viewed as “same-opposite” vs “same-different”; what you wanna do with them … sex, relationship or both. Some think samesex intercourse is fine as long as you don’t want a relationship . And what even does attraction mean.

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            I see it as different things, you can fall for one gender, you can feel sexual attractive for another but most of the time do they sync. So that made also sense why some had crushes on the gender they wouldn’t be together with.

            It all clicked when I got to know a girl who could fall in love with men and women but couldn’t enjoy having sex with guys even tho she tried to really liked it with the guys she fell for. And that also made me understand what pan really was because I thought it was just bi with extra steps but when gender identity, gender romance and gender sexually was all different things then it all made sense.

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          That would imply at least 30% is bi/pan.

          And even at 80%, early humans already had it really rough. There seems to have been 2 near extinctions of modern humans in the far past, so when the population is about 1000, having 200 not contribute is pretty big. Especially with the higher mortality rates early humans had in regards to birth.

          It’s more likely the percentage started extremely low and increased over time as population stability increased, since then it would reach a point where 10-20% not having kids wouldn’t be as big a deal since there would now be hundreds of thousands or even over a million.

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            Honestly it’s weird how adamant people are there have always been people who solely preferred one sex over the other. While it’s generally true for modern society, people wouldn’t have even understood what you mean in ancient times by “sexual orientation”, really. I mean you could obviously explain it and people could answer to a degree, but…

            Well, think of this, we have left and right in our languages. We all know those are relative terms. My left and your left are different, most of the time. Anyway, there exists a tribe who don’t have relative words for directions, and they only use cardinal directions, all the time. As in if they’re hanging a painting, they’d say “no, no, a bit to the north” instead of “left”. On a tangent, it makes them very much immune to getting lost as they have incredible sense of direction for that reason. My point being that to us it’s simple that you just use left and right, why wouldn’t you, when people know what it means and it’s simple. So why doesn’t that tribe use them? Idk, it’s just not in their culture. Just like such strict classifications of sexual orientation weren’t much of a thing in ancient and prehistoric times.

            Bill And The Romans Talk About Sexuality | The Eaters Of Light | Doctor Who

            Cornelius: Yeah, don’t worry, Bill, Lucius will look after you.

            Lucius: Shut up, Cornelius!

            Bill: Ahh, Lucius, erm, right, listen there’s, erm, something I should explain.

            Lucius: What?

            Bill: This is probably just a really difficult idea. I don’t like men that way.

            Lucius: What? Not ever?

            Bill: Nah, not ever. Only women.

            Nah…not ever.

            Lucius: Oh. Alright, yeah, I’ve got it. You’re like Vitus then.

            Bill: What?

            Lucius: He only likes men.

            Vitus: Some men. Better looking men than you, Lucius.

            Lucius: I don’t think it’s narrow-minded, I think it’s fine. You know what you like.

            Bill: And you like both?

            Lucius: I’m just ordinary, I like men and women.