@canada Residents of #canada, would you be in favour of your province or territory abolishing annual clock changes and moving to a consistent, year round time?

If yes, what would you prefer: year round daylight savings time (an extra hour of sunlight in the evening) or standard time (an extra hour of sunlight in the morning)?

  • pandore@fedinsfw.app
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    2 days ago

    Abolish and use standard time. BTW, standard time doesn’t give an extra hour of sunlight in the morning, it’s equal. DST gives an extra sunlight hour in the evening.

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    5 days ago

    I live in Saskatchewan, so I already don’t change my clocks at all and I can say with certainty that it is better this way! Please stop changing your clocks!

    I found out that Saskatchewan is on permanent Daylight time (more evening sun) which is, by most studies, the ‘worse’ option. However, it is still better than changing the clocks and once you stop the flip-flop, it is so much better.

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      Also from Saskatchewan, lived in Alberta for a few years. I have literally never in my life had a moment where I wished Sask did time changes, and found it stressful and annoying every time it happened while living elsewhere.

      Stop changing your clocks! Good job BC, I hope you start some dominoes!

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      Came here to say the same thing.

      When the whole time zone and DST were being introduced it is my understanding that it was “because the cows wouldn’t understand why they were being fed an hour early or later depending on the time of the year.”

      Here is to the livestock for saving people from the week of more car accidents and heart attacks!

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      @FlareHeart if it’s the worse option then I wonder why everywhere keeps going for it (BC and the Yukon too). My guess is that it’s partially for economic reasons. Most people are out and about in the evening, so by allowing for an extra hour of sunlight in the evening you open the window of time when people will engage in economic activities. This could have indirect health benefits through increased employment or something, who knows.

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        I’m not sure. I know that due to our position and lack of sunlight, most Canadians are deficient in vitamin D, so I supplement for that anyway. But I love not having to change my clocks. One hour’s shift of what little sunlight we get in the winter doesn’t matter IMO. Just stop flip-flopping!

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              Ooo.psychology today , that’s almost science.

              Like most psychology studies, they misuse stats to generate a conclusion they already made before the study. Psychology is a joke, epidemiology is a joke, but together the make the Reece’s peanut butter of shit science.

              What if all those events were just due to weather changes coincident with fall and spring time changes? Did they look at mean temperatures? Air pressure?

              Example, from the link you didn’t read,

              “An analysis in the European Journal of Public Health from 2024 showed no increase in suicide in Austria, Switzerland, and Sweden following the start of daylight saving time. However, data vary, and studies show that some subgroups, including patients with substance use disorders, may incur a 6.59 percent increase in suicide risk soon after the springtime change.”

              A subgroup of a subgroup may have (that means not significant) an effect. Typical of garbage published around this.

              I suggest you people find solutions to real problems in the world.

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                2 days ago

                Heavy use of sarcasm, unironic use of “you people” when replying to a single person, and turning it all into whataboutism.

                Bad faith arguments.

                Not worth my time.

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    Alberta here. Fuck yes! The premise of DST is stupid. Changing twice a year is more stupider.

    Abolish it forever and move to standard time.

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      In BC we are now on permanent daylight savings. Gives us a winter dark around 4:30 instead of 3:30

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        2 days ago

        Instead of changing how the sun works maybe change how humans work. Instead of 9 to 5, how about 8 to 4 ?

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          Same here. Wish they put it to referendum, no idea why they went with daylight savings.

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              Why not? Wake up naturally with no alarm clock at like 6am ready to take on the day and feeling refreshed. Sunlight pouring through the windows as you drink your coffee and get showered.

              I would rather have a ton of sunlight in the morning then late in the evening.

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          Why? You want 3;:30 sunrise starting? I prefer the 4:30am start, and daylight in the winter near end of day

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        Most people won’t even notice if they leave work at 5pm, will still be dark no matter what so why not have an extra hour of light in the morning instead? I much prefer standard.

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          In winter it is dark here in the morning too. Rainforest oveecaat cloud cover means its pretty bleak

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          You probably don’t live near Vancouver. Otherwise you’d know Daylight time makea more sense

  • Doug VE3ZDN@lemmy.ca
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    I support ending seasonal time changes. There is considerable data showing that these changes cause health issues and more workplace injuries. However, staying on daylight saving time isn’t the right choice. Every jurisdiction that has tried this has been compelled to revert to seasonal adjustments. The best option is Standard Time, as it aligns most closely with solar time, which our bodies naturally follow.

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      Other than the poorly implemented experiment in the States, who else has reverted? Saskatchewan is (effectively) permanent daylight time, as are Argentina, Malaysia, and Singapore. Possibly there’s a bunch of other countries that I don’t know about as well.

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        The short list of clear “tried it → reversed it” cases is:

        • 🇷🇺 Russia (2011–2014)
        • 🇬🇧 United Kingdom (1968–1971)
        • 🇺🇸 United States (1940s, 1970s experiments)

        And the reason is remarkably consistent:

        👉 Permanent DST sounds appealing—but winter mornings break it.

  • Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
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    Absolutely. But they need to do it right. Eby’s “permanent” change to Daylight Savings Time will most likely get rescinded in a year or two just like it has everywhere else it has been tried because it doesn’t work. That hour on winter mornings is needed far, far more than the hour in the evening in the summer. He would have been much better to have not changed the time on March 8th and just left it alone.

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    3 days ago

    My recently ruined sleep schedule thinks this sounds good. Personally I’d go for standard time cause waking up to darkness is really depressing for me.

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    5 days ago

    I’m in BC and I’m glad we’re not doing the changes again. That said, I do wish we stuck with standard time instead, but I’ll get used to it.

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    I absolutely want to get rid of changing clocks every year, which is nice because BC is doing just that

    Unfortunately I think BC is going permanent Daylight savings, where I would prefer permanent Standard. It’s much nicer to wake up to daylight in the morning, and I don’t particularly care for doing outdoor activities at 10-11pm.

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    Yes. In Alberta, especially in the central/northern region, the time change doesn’t serve any particular purpose. Our daylight hours are very long in the summer and very short in the winter, so changing the specific time the sun rises and sets hardly makes a difference.

    Personally I prefer standard time over DST, and I think a lot of people here share that opinion. We probably would have switched over years ago if our government had any shred of competence.