Your comment basically says that society progresses at its own steady pace, and people demanding more rights and societal progress are impatient and wasting their time. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of how society evolves. It’s not an automatism, it is the direct result of people raising their voices and demanding rights. There is no progress without these efforts. So yes, their demands are currently unachievable - by definition. It’s not a bug, it’s not a mistake, it’s a necessity.
Im not sure if you think my thing was one thing. The first part was about expectations around changing societal norms and folks catching up with language and stuff but the last several lines where about censorship. So when it comes to fiction I don’t like anything being censored. Like there is this anime from way back. This guy finds a gun and he goes on a rape rampage and I think in the end kills himself but its been a long time. It was graphic and disturbing to say the least. It is something that there are certainly people if they were aware of it would want it banned. I do actually think it was trying to say something about guns though as well as maybe human demons and such
Okay I see. I think I misread that part about censorship in your first comment. An interesting discussion for sure, because on one hand, art lets us explore things “safely” that we can’t do in real life, but on the other hand, being fictional doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a real effect on people.
My second point was very important to what your initial comment said about progress in society, and you didn’t respond to that at all so I’m not sure if you’ve read it?
Yeah I did not respond to all your points. I did the first because it seems like you think all of what I was saying was in related to the same thing and it was not and you still seem to think. I did not move on to your second point as the first misunderstanding is rather severe. I really don’t want to keep expanding as I had two things to say and you had two points about it so im trying to get the one straightened out. So let me know if we have cleared up that my paragraph is not all about changing societal norms and I can reply to your second and longer response if you like. So Im horrible at making proper paragraphs and such but this is how it should have looked:
im fine with trans people and non discrimination but my whole life sex and gender terms were one and the same for me and most folks in everyday language. The idea of identifying pronouns for myself seems laughable to me. Im a big believer in simple solutions. Got some temp work at a place with genderless bathrooms that had the full floor to ceiling doors. Its a bit wierd to wash my hands with girls but its not like im naked. There is all sorts of language things going out of fashion (online) and folks are like just learn it but look despite decades of school my spelling and grammar are atrocious because habits don’t change easily and no one is even forcing me to study or anything now. On top of it, like it or not for the internet folks, it has no bearing in the outside world which is still basically jugging along at its own pace. It will over time for sure but it won’t happen as quickly as early adopters would like.
Also I pretty much don’t like any type of censorship of fictinal things (this is the start of a second and independent response to the post. it could have been two responses but I was having a zoom zoom train of thought thing. this paragprah is not related to the previous. real quick this second paragraph is about censorship in general. so like while I might like the subject matter of fictional literature I don’t like it being banned). Reality and fiction are two different things to me. Although modern ability to fake things is making identifying something as real as tough. I don’t want claims of it being high end fakes as letting folks get away with crimes.
Whaddaya mean by “fictional” in this context?
Your comment basically says that society progresses at its own steady pace, and people demanding more rights and societal progress are impatient and wasting their time. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of how society evolves. It’s not an automatism, it is the direct result of people raising their voices and demanding rights. There is no progress without these efforts. So yes, their demands are currently unachievable - by definition. It’s not a bug, it’s not a mistake, it’s a necessity.
Im not sure if you think my thing was one thing. The first part was about expectations around changing societal norms and folks catching up with language and stuff but the last several lines where about censorship. So when it comes to fiction I don’t like anything being censored. Like there is this anime from way back. This guy finds a gun and he goes on a rape rampage and I think in the end kills himself but its been a long time. It was graphic and disturbing to say the least. It is something that there are certainly people if they were aware of it would want it banned. I do actually think it was trying to say something about guns though as well as maybe human demons and such
Okay I see. I think I misread that part about censorship in your first comment. An interesting discussion for sure, because on one hand, art lets us explore things “safely” that we can’t do in real life, but on the other hand, being fictional doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a real effect on people.
My second point was very important to what your initial comment said about progress in society, and you didn’t respond to that at all so I’m not sure if you’ve read it?
Yeah I did not respond to all your points. I did the first because it seems like you think all of what I was saying was in related to the same thing and it was not and you still seem to think. I did not move on to your second point as the first misunderstanding is rather severe. I really don’t want to keep expanding as I had two things to say and you had two points about it so im trying to get the one straightened out. So let me know if we have cleared up that my paragraph is not all about changing societal norms and I can reply to your second and longer response if you like. So Im horrible at making proper paragraphs and such but this is how it should have looked:
im fine with trans people and non discrimination but my whole life sex and gender terms were one and the same for me and most folks in everyday language. The idea of identifying pronouns for myself seems laughable to me. Im a big believer in simple solutions. Got some temp work at a place with genderless bathrooms that had the full floor to ceiling doors. Its a bit wierd to wash my hands with girls but its not like im naked. There is all sorts of language things going out of fashion (online) and folks are like just learn it but look despite decades of school my spelling and grammar are atrocious because habits don’t change easily and no one is even forcing me to study or anything now. On top of it, like it or not for the internet folks, it has no bearing in the outside world which is still basically jugging along at its own pace. It will over time for sure but it won’t happen as quickly as early adopters would like.
Also I pretty much don’t like any type of censorship of fictinal things (this is the start of a second and independent response to the post. it could have been two responses but I was having a zoom zoom train of thought thing. this paragprah is not related to the previous. real quick this second paragraph is about censorship in general. so like while I might like the subject matter of fictional literature I don’t like it being banned). Reality and fiction are two different things to me. Although modern ability to fake things is making identifying something as real as tough. I don’t want claims of it being high end fakes as letting folks get away with crimes.