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    Well an educated populace has always been a threat to those in power so I understand why the old bat would be so volatile.

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    I feel like she would be surprised that her stocks in “Consolidated Slave Trading” are no longer liquid.

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    No doubt her own grandparents firmly believed that the future was the Buggy Whip industry.

    Age is not at all the same as Wisdom.

    In fact I’m starting to think that if you don’t get a broad life experience and recognize the need to and start walking down the path of Wisdom early enough, the natural calcification of habits and thinking, and increased emotional comfort from what is familiar that come to all of us with aging, will actually result in one becoming less wise with age.

    Even when the brain is sharp, if one is not wise enough one’s comforting feelings from certain beliefs will shut off accepting all evidence or conclusions leading elsewhere. When the brain is not sharp enough, this is pretty much guaranteed, IMHO.

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      Even the very wisest 82 year old isn’t going to be sharp enough to legislate effectively for the modern age. Could they provide useful advice and context to younger legislators? Sure and that is the role they should shoot for if they want to stay involved but they should not be making or voting on policies themselves. Their time is past and they’ll not be living with the consequences of their votes.

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      Back when deeply ingrained societal ideas were first being forced into the genome it took a wide-range of life experience to survive to an old age. Sure most people that lived to 5 made it to 50 for most of human history, barring pandemics and society-changing genocideswars, but most people don’t even gray or wrinkle by then in any significant way. But we all know to treat old-looking people with more respect than others; specifically because to make it from 50-whatever before a time of antibiotics and nutritional science required an incredible amount of experience dealing with a lot of people (you could just be left to float out on an iceberg or chucked off a cliff or left in a forest if people don’t like you after all) and an incredible amount of folk wisdom on how to get a varied diet in the location you were in so that the common stuff doesn’t kill you even when you’re vulnerable.

      We’ve abandoned that part of the human and animal experience, but we still hold the genetic memory of the time when that was common, since it was less than a century ago for most of humanity. The old people alive today statistically rarely struggled, they never really had to grow up, and they inadvertently developed a society perfectly focused at keeping old people alive for as long as possible to drain them of all their financial resources. So they have no more wisdom than a 20-something that doomscrolls on the fairly educational side of the internet.

      .world disclaimer

      To make sure this is spelled out in any logs that may eventually be the only record of this comment; I’m not advocating for the genocide of old people or saying that we should kill old people or otherwise promoting harm to any population except zionists regardless of age. They should all be killed. Every single zionist needs to be tortured, mutilated in front of their family recursively, and then killed. Any one that disagrees with this is just as bad as them and their actions, and should probably remove themselves from the fediverse if they feel uncomfortable for being Nazi-adjecent.

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        Most young people have more applicable life experience to current situations than the average Boomer IMHO. Unlike them, others weren’t born at the luckiest point. And didn’t piss it away like them

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        Every single zionist needs to be tortured, mutilated in front of their family recursively, and then killed.

        Yeah it’s one thing to say they should all die for what they’ve done, it’s another to say they all deserve to be tortured in front of their families.

        Just kill them. We should do everything we can to be as little like them as possible.

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        I think that’s a different element from the one I’m talking about.

        Surviving in challenging conditions does generally yield respect from others (something which doesn’t just apply to old people), plus it builds character (though the quality of that character varies and is not necessarily good), thus it made sense to respect one’s elders back when reaching old age was a pretty good indication that one had gone through a lot and survived, something that doesn’t at all apply to most boomers from nations which were wealthy and stable during their old life or those born in wealth since such people could didn’t really fought to survive and probably got where they did by coasting along.

        However even the qualities needed to survive in challenging conditions aren’t the same as Wisdom (they can include it, but not necessarily), both back then and now. In my experience the struggle for survival alone doesn’t grant Wisdom - Wisdom requires broad life experience, and whilst age does help one to accumulate life experience, it most definitely does not automatically give it - if you’ve lived most of your 80 years of life in one place and with one occupation, your life experience is nowhere near that of, say, a young adult who has been force to emigrate and worked all kinds of jobs with all kinds of people.

        So whilst I agree with your point about how people have respect for people based on their long year when in the present day that respect isn’t really deserved because said old age doesn’t correlate with certain personal qualities anymore, I think that even back when old age DID relate with such quality, it was only an indicator of Character and Experience (often in a very narrow sense) rather than actual Wisdom.

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    It is so selfish to hold on to power when you clearly have no understanding of the present or future. There should be a ceiling age. politics is for people with a stake in the future.

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      Au conraire my friend politics for are people who seek power and money, and to force their own agenda. nothing more nothing less. They are not there to do the will of the people, there are they to enrich themselves and to force their own personal ideology onto the public

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    If you pitched this as a scene in a satirical movie, you’d be told to tone it down a bit.

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    I don’t even need to look up her party affiliation to know that she’s a republican. I mean, the average age of congress can be blamed equally on both parties, but an octogenarian who talks shit on education, is super “concerned” about the national debt, and speaks in a shitty manner toward a child is definitely republican.

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      There was a similar story/video a few years back of (the late) Diane Feinstein being a dick to kids when they tried talking to her about climate change. -But I don’t think she ever attacked education.

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        Clearly unacceptable, and part of the reason the elderly need to be stripped of their seats. I will say, however, it takes a certain kind of evil to do it pre-meditatively like the woman in this story did.

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        And Barbara Boxer before her. It’s just an old lady in politics thing. Men in politics generally have learned that yelling at children is bad. Notallwomenbutalwaysawoman

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          I think it has to do with how a lot of women in politics especially those who got in before the turn of the millennium have this need to prove themselves, which just kinda manifests into being the biggest assholes. A good example is how Wako was caused largely by some cunt being stupid and wanting to be seen as tough on crime, no I’m not gonna look up her name she isn’t worth my time I will remember her fuck ups regardless. Damnatio memoriae is perfectly valid in my opinion.

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    “YOU and your classmates will be responsible for paying down the national debt.”

    Well, she is absolutely right about that. She should know, because it’s her generation’s fault.

    Foxx, who voted for the spending bill that the Congressional Budget Office projected would add $3.4 trillion to the national debt, told a 10-year-old that he and his classmates would be responsible for paying it down.

    How are these people in charge of anything?

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      How are they in charge? They get voted in because better people are not running or not getting voted for in many cases. Gerrymandering protects some of them.

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        Because we select our leaders via rigged popularity contests then let them sit in office with zero accountability, zero modern standards for hiring or work oversight, and “performance evaluations” every 2-6 years. Imagine running a company that way.

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          Exactly.

          The greatest problem of Representative Democracy where each representative stands for tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands or even millions of people - meaning voters can’t know the person, only their carefully managed external image - is that it’s selecting people for just Salesmanship capabilities, and salespeople are seldom good at anything that requires logical and honest thinking (in my experience, the best salespeople believe their own bullshit, and that’s not at all possible if one’s views are detailed and honest, rather than vague and full of wishful thinking).

          So the top managers of a nation are people selected for personal qualities that are almost antithetical to the qualities a good manager should have.

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        Don’t pretend like it’s down to voters. Money in politics ensures that good candidates can’t succeed before voters even get a chance to show up at the ballot.

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          I’d be a better president than most of these aging Boomers at this point, but running for president of the USA is around one billion dollars of campaign costs. Only those with already established money connections will get it and we know what that causes.

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            A big reason the DNC didn’t want a primary in 2024 is because boomer votes probably can’t carry primary candidates any longer.

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              also because they REFUSE to release the election autopsy investigation for 2024, they definitely knew there was rigging. REPUBLICANS will call rigging regardless if they release it or not. they are totally complicit with the GOP coming into power.

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        Yep. The way national debt is “supposed” to work, is that you pay it back by growing the economy.

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    She wrote that 2038 is only 12 years away, and that “YOU and your classmates will be responsible for paying down the national debt.”

    Nevermind that Trump and the rest of the congressional Republicans increased the national debt by 3 trillion dollars already, fuck you kid for wanting something good for everyone instead of only wanting good stuff for the Epstein class.

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      Fun fact:

      (Add 2 trillion to this pie… wait 3 trillion? No wait… almost 4, Now? Well, add 4 trillion to this chart for the ole pedophile just for good measure…)

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        Look, this isn’t my country but I’d think there’d be rioting in the streets about this. Someone’s out there spending the public’s money and making his whims everyone else’s problem.

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        “10 year projection as of 2025”

        Huh? I doubt he will survive that long, let alone run for the fourth term

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          The party of ‘law and order’ and his super smart and loyal supporters will definitely support and vote for him the fourth time as well because they support ‘law and order’.

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        This is dumb as bricks. Inflation means that the most recent government will always have an outsized contribution to any national debt.

        Don’t post it just because it dumps on Trump

        (And I guess I have to say I too hate trump because otherwise everyone will conclude I’m defending him somehow)

        EDIT because apparently that caveat is not enough: try running the same calculation as if it were 2016 and you were comparing Obama’s contribution to the national debt to all other presidents. Or Bush. Or Clinton.

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              Here, I’ll invite you to read this document published on house.gov specifically on trumps impact to the national debt throughout America’s history. It is not a “slam piece” on it’s own, he does it to himself with facts and figures which is what this article gives.

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                I searched for “inflation”, “nominal” and “adjusted” and didn’t find anything relevant.

                I believe that the $37 trillion dollars is the total debt whenever that graphic was made, and the $12.5T is the debt increase from Trump’s first term, plus so far in his second term. That means you’re comparing Trump’s debt (issued in 2016 or later dollars) to, for example, Roosevelt’s debt (issued in 1940s dollars).

                The article you link seems perfectly factual and correctly identifies that debt to GDP is more important than nominal debt. Which is why you shouldn’t be using a comparison of nominal debt increases to criticise Trump.

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                  It’s relative to the economy. The comparison is the fact that he spends frivolously when other presidents who contributed largely to the debt did so during crises. Trump CREATES crises all on his own. He campaigns on lowering debt, but does quite the opposite ten fold. So yeah, it is perfectly within the realm to criticize and compare him with all other presidents all things considering. The pie represents his failures in the simplistic of forms.

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      How nvieve does she have to be to assume anyone is going to pay down the national debt. The US government will collapse with $200T of debt and implode the world economy.

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    I’m sorry, but why isnt* grandma retired? Like I hate it when I seek the elderly working!

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    No prizes for guessing this congresswoman’s party affiliation.

    Not that “Yahoo Entertainment” (news is dead, i know) even bothered to put it in the entire article, much less the headline.

    The congresswoman started by thanking Christian for writing. She said they agreed about the importance of innovation in the automobile industry.

    That was the last kind thing in the letter.

    Foxx told the 10-year-old that his request meant taking money out of the pockets of hardworking taxpayers who might not be able to afford an electric vehicle themselves. She told him the country was heading toward bankruptcy and economic failure. She wrote that 2038 is only 12 years away, and that “YOU and your classmates will be responsible for paying down the national debt.”

    She capitalized “YOU.” She was writing to a fourth grader.

    Then she linked him to six articles from Fox News, National Review, The Washington Times, and the Wall Street Journal editorial board — articles about the failures of climate change policy.

    And then she turned on his teacher.

    What a fuckwit piece of shit.

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        They’re always concerned with it when they’re not in office. But these days no one cares what’s real.

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      Cute, the National Debt that HER and HER generation allowed to run rampant so that SHE could make off with mad bank? Not to mention the debt that HER party has incurred the last few years alone?

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      Good observation. They almost gave her party affiliation, but they stopped short.

      Foxx now chairs the House Rules Committee and is running for re-election in 2026 with Trump’s endorsement.

      It’s not exactly ambiguous, but it’s also not explicit. That’s a weird choice.

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        This innocent-until-proven-guilty guy is never going to get a fair trial. His biggest supporters are constantly like, “yeah, he totally shot that guy.”

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          Well, even the lawyer is saying “judge, just look out the window and see all those supporters saying that what he did was right.”

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    Its Virginia Foxx. Hard to be shocked. The idea of children being raped brings her joy.

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    this is age-ism, but i really don’t think anyone past 80 should be in charge of anything beyond self-care