The line Joe Biden used to put into nearly every big speech — “I’ve never been more optimistic about America’s future” — is a long way from what he says in private now.The line Joe Biden used to put into nearly every big speech — “I’ve never been more optimistic about America’s future” — is a long way from what he says in private now.
These days, multiple people who’ve spoken to him over the last year say, Biden often punctuates conversations with: “You think we can actually come back from this?”
The 83-year-old Biden continues to feel out a post-presidency that may prove to be one of the shortest in history and is already one of the most complicated.
There are days when Biden is heartbroken, indignant or in disbelief about what is happening as President Donald Trump — the man he defeated in 2020 — returned and moved not just to tear down his accomplishments, but to dig in with petty insults like the autopen photograph he put in Biden’s spot in the “Presidential Walk of Fame” installed at the White House.
Dude sat on the Trump/Epstein files for 4 years and did nothing about it because it would have hurt the donor class and Israel.
Trump won on a (false) pledge to release the files.
Who deserves the blame for this situation in your mind?
Four years when it was still sealed by the courts because it was still an ongoing investigation?
Also, you really don’t know how the government is supposed to work if you think the president even should have had a hand in the day-to-day operations of the DOJ…
HE WAS AN INSURECTIONIST, WAS BIDEN NOT AWARE BECAUSE IT WAS SEALED INFORMATION?
COPE HARDER.
I never said he wasn’t aware. It would have been a breach of procedure to make documents pertaining to an ongoing case public. Such a breach of procedure can actually allow criminals to walk free.
It would have been idiotic and unprofessional to release documents pertaining to an ongoing investigation.
Also, the insurrection case was being put together, it just needed more time. Jack Smith did all he could in the two years he was given, but the Supreme Court decided to punt their decision on whether to allow the case to go through.
There’s literally nothing more that Biden could have personally done in that regard, and if you think there was then you don’t understand the role of the president, nor do you understand the dangers of forcing or even allowing a president to claim prosecutorial powers.
You act like that shit isn’t happening right now under Trump. I am pretty fucksure we are all well aware of the dangers.
The point is not realizing if they didn’t break some rules to stop him, Trump was gonna stomp all over every rule and has literally turned the DOJ into his own grievance chasing law firm.
So yeah, it’s literally happening right the fuck now so why should I give a shit about someone breaking the same rules to STOP this from becoming the norm. It sure as fuck is the norm now.
Well I was completely on board with doing everything we could to stop trump, but for some reason for a lot of people the line was drawn at actually voting. So yeah, trump is destroying the institutions of the US government and yeah, we’re all fucked. But if Biden destroyed those very same institutions in some “preemptive strike” against trump, we’d still be fucked. Either way, the system is broken. The only thing that would change is who broke the system, and trump could avoid looking like the bad guy while laying all the blame at Biden’s feet for taking the bait.
At least this way, what trump is doing is unprecedented. Its quite clear that he’s the one breaking the system, and even though he still tries to accuse Biden of everything he’s doing, people can at least see through it.
Yeah real glad we can see through it while people are being black bagged in the streets and held without cause and worse.
Get your fucking head out of your ass.
How many peoples lives need to be ruined so you can feel smugly superior?
My head isn’t in my ass. I’ve seen through it for years, and that’s why I did all I could to get people to see the danger leading up to 2024. It’s not my fault everyone decided to focus on the billion-dollar smear campaign against Biden instead of the very real danger of trump fascism.
It didn’t take people getting black bagged and abducted for me to wake up, so direct your ire elsewhere.
I don’t feel smugly superior. I’m distraught at what’s happening. Quite enough lives have already been ruined, and I’m frustrated with my powerlessness to do anything about it.
But if you want to attack me because I say people should have voted against trump even if they had to hold their noses while they were doing it, or because Biden shouldn’t have destroyed the democratic process in an attempt to save it, whatfuckingever. Stop trying to blame me for what’s happening.
My darker side would have reveled in conservatives getting what’s coming to them. It would be the most satisfying if they were given due process and their rights were respected while they were being tried, convicted, and sentenced for their very real crimes. That’s what should have happened.
A part of me would love to say that all that should have been thrown out the window and the threats to democracy should have been hunted down and eliminated by any means possible, but my rational side tells me that once that precedent is set there’s no going back, and that the very act would necessitate further measures and more drastic measures, until it starts to effect people who weren’t legitimate threats to democracy.
And humanity’s rational nature is what gives us the capability in engaging in civil society and democratic processes. It’s what enabled us to develop systems of society which, at least nominally, acknowledge things like human rights and limitations of powers. If we throw all that out the window, we’re no more than animals.
Maga has thrown it all out the window, and they’re behaving like animals. They’re clearly the bad guys. So why don’t you direct your anger at them instead of the people who refuse to stoop to their level in some vain endeavor to oppose them.
If rationality, compassion, rule of law, civic order, and democratic processes don’t win, we all lose. It doesn’t matter who destroys them, even if it was your guy.
You can ramble all you want, it still amounts to “I’m glad we didn’t actually do anything to stop this because stopping it would have been worse somehow.” Fucking grow up. You act like it’s a foregone conclusion that things would have devolved, when it’s categorically not. Brazil and South Korea were able to handle these situations without this pissing around “wE hAvE tO fOlLoW tHe pRoCeSs” because their processes actually fucking worked when the “process” in the USA has been broken for fucking decades already anyway. We already had two justice systems, Trump just made it visible to fucking middle class liberal white people who are somehow shocked that the shit that’s been happening to minorities for fucking decades is now the norm. The system was already broken and built so the rich and powerful could exploit it and due to that we needed someone willing to throw a monkey wrench in the gears of that broken ass fucking system, not people piddling around and going “we just need to trust this totally fucking broken system that lets the wealthy buy their way out of consequences literally every time.” Biden had that chance, he squandered it, and now you and him are both whinging about how fucking bad it is while taking zero responsibility for the fact that he fucked up majorly in numerous ways, including ways that didn’t have to take four fucking years if we’d had an AG that wasn’t a fucking “gimme” to the Republicans because he didn’t get his Supreme Court spot. Oh boo hoo for Garland, he deserved that consolation prize so he could slow walk everything so he didn’t “look political” while looking deeply political in helping fucking criminals get off scott free. Maybe if we hadn’t been handing that motherfucker a consolation prize we might have an AG that did their fucking job and did it fast and with the seriousness it deserved and wouldn’t have even needed Biden to get directly involved. There were so many fucking chances to do this within the bounds of the broken system you keep choking on the dick of, and yet, somehow, none of that happened because we hired the biggest pussy in history to be AG for no good fucking reason except to glaze the same Republicans who are busy trying to put us in camps. Jack Smith could have and should have been deployed day one not two fucking years later after pissing around going “shucks I just don’t know what to do!” The fact that he wasn’t is part of the evidence that the system is broken and built to fail everyone except the wealthy and powerful to begin with.
Both of them
You’re correct but apparently this thread is only for hyperbole. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
This just in: investigations take longer in real life than on TV. Investigations of people with lots of lawyers take even more time and - stay with me - strategy.
Just because you didn’t see something happening, doesn’t mean it’s not happening. That’s like Object Permanence.
They have testimonies going back decades if they had wanted to look into it they would have by now
Fucker tried to overthrow the government. If you can’t convict someone for that and prevent him from running again in 4 years that’s a serious failure to your duties as president. If the court system can’t handle it then maybe he should have used his presidential immunity the fucking supreme court ruled to get rid of the threat.
Edit: also if biden wouldn’t have hopped on taking momentum away from Bernie in the primaries, it probably would have been Trump vs Bernie. And I believe Bernie would have won 2 terms. I think biden did decent as president, but allowing an insurrectionist to run again was a huge error.
There is NO excuse for allowing Trump and his henchmen to roam free after Biden’s inauguration. He would have been well within his presidential, constitutional, and legal duties to round them all up and detain them in Guantanamo for extensive interrogation.
Trump had attempted a violent Insurrection only a couple of weeks before. What kind of a NEW national leader takes over, and doesn’t do ANYTHING about a serious, active National Security Threat running actively destroying their nation?
Easily the worst case of negligence and incompetence by a Democratic president since WWII.
Presidents don’t have prosecutorial power. Are you fucking stupid?
You’re right, thats the DOJ. Now who appoints the head of the DOJ? That’s right, it’s the fucking president. So it was entirely in his power to appoint someone that would do his fucking job.
But sure, I guess I’m just stupid.
Cause presidents can see the future and know who will or won’t betray their oaths of office ahead of time?
You’re telling me 4 years was too short a time to build a case against an insurrectionist pedophile who was referenced more than any other individual in the files?
And your chastising me for object permanence? L O fucking L
Or the case put together by Mueller during Trump’s presidency! Where the only impediment to going to trial was that Trump was currently president.
These people will talk about slow and steady justice until the statute of limitations expires and then praise the prosecution for being cautious. If this was the best our justice system could do, we don’t have one.
Justice delayed is justice denied. Many girls and now women in the Epstein files can attest to that.
SCOTUS gave the presidency unilateral powers for official acts. Biden could have easily threw the bad Supremes into the slammer, release the PDFiles, have Tulsi shot for being a Russian agent, and more.
Abusive, yes. But at least it would force all the bullshit into the light.