Saudi Arabia, a key Gulf ally, suspended the U.S. military’s ability to use its bases and airspace to carry out the operation, sources say.

Donald Trump’s abrupt reversal on his plan to help ships go through the Strait of Hormuz came after a key Gulf ally suspended the U.S. military’s ability to use its bases and airspace to carry out the operation, according to two U.S. officials.

Trump surprised Gulf allies by announcing “Project Freedom” on social media Sunday afternoon, the officials said, angering leadership in Saudi Arabia. In response, the Kingdom informed the U.S. it would not allow the U.S. military to fly aircraft from Prince Sultan Airbase southeast of Riyadh or fly through Saudi airspace to support the effort, the officials said.

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      In the voice of Ron Howard:

      “Now the story of a wealthy nation that’s losing everything, and the one President who has no choice but to keep them distracted from the Epstine Files. It’s America: Freedom Suspended.”

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    I literally cannot keep up with whether or not it’s open. He’s flooding the news in hopes of muddying the waters and hiding his failure.

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    The US has no allies anymore. The whole world is disgusted with what has happened to America…and with the fact that nobody in America seems to care enough to meaningfully change it. Y’all need to wake the fuck up and realize you’re all acting like Germans in the late 30’s.

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          They love the authoritarianism while hating the Jewishness, but as long as they stay in their lane, they’re tolerated. Think Germany and Japan in WWII.

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        Yeah no. Bibi the nazi is not an US ally, he’s just blackmailing Trump and guilt tripping every American with antisionism so he can get whatever he wants. But he’s not an ally.

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          The government of the people, by the people, and for the people is long gone; the American people and the American government are two very different things. He is not in any way, shape, or form an ally to the people, but he is to the government, regardless of reason. Nazis of a feather.

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            The government of the people, by the people, and for the people is long gone

            It never existed. Most politicians lies and backstab people after they are electes

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      nobody in America seems to care enough to meaningfully change it

      People keep saying this as if we’ve all got a lever we could pull to get him out of office and just…aren’t doing it. No, there’s no direct way to make it happen. There’s no meaningful opposition party, and no way to remove a president from office without one. The indirect ways to do it–namely, protest and primary challenges–well, a lot of us are doing that. And those who are and aren’t protesting are held back by needing to work in an economic system that ties our healthcare to our employment.

      The problem can’t be solved in just a few months. This is a coordinated assault against liberty that began decades ago; it’d take a few years to sort out even if the entire middle and lower class was in agreement, and a sizable undereducated, propagandized population in the lower class is going to take some time to get on board.

      “Wake up” and do what? Take up arms? That’s a pipe dream sold by the NRA to keep conservatives buying guns. So what are we supposed to do that we’re not already doing?

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        The problem in the US is that no one seems to realize that 1. Political change is not instantaneous and 2. Political change needs efforts/sacrifice.

        Organize, vote in every election, make your voice heard in the primaries, etc.

        There’s no meaningful opposition party

        Indeed, the Dems suck right now, but that can change. You just need enough people speaking loud enough with a clear message.

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          Yep. And we’re seeing some movement on the outside making inroads into the party itself, which is great. There are more people trying to primary their establishment dems, and a lot of them are winning. But even if every Democrat in office right now were to lose their next primary, it would still take the better part of a decade to turn the entire party over.

          If we survive this thing, the democratic party that comes out of it will be stronger for having been infused with younger, more progressive voices; but the road to that future is long.

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        So what are we supposed to do that we’re not already doing?

        Drive to DC with torches en masse.

        (It’s actually 3,500,000 square miles)

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          Can you please explain the joke further? Your first explanation left a lot questions unanswered and I am still not in a state of laughing, not even snickering. I am smiling in anticipation but I’m not sure how long it’s gonna last!!!

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        Getting ready, I suppose. We need an actual grassroots movement with commitment and organization. General strike seems about all that’s left to us

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        Your system is so fucked. In a parliamentary democracy the members of the legislature for his own party would have seen his approval ratings, realised what that’ll mean for their own electoral chances and ousted him by now.

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          Would things be different in a parliamentary system? I’m not actually so sure. Every single member of the house of representatives is up for election in November and they don’t seem worried enough about their electoral chances to restrain him in any way.

          Congress is still nominally the strongest branch of US government and they’re fully abdicating their responsibilities. What would a parliamentary system solve when one party is a death cult?

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            Maybe I’m just going by how things have been working in the UK in the last few years. We’ve not had a Prime Minister last a full election term since Blair in the early 2000s.

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          No argument there. But we can’t even get the man out of office right now; how likely is it that we’re going to change the whole system in light of that?

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      Europe and canada increased the sanctions on Iran to limit it’s ability to defend itself. France sent a warship to try to open the straight, what hapoen if Iran attack it? This is an escalation. Us didn’t lost any ally. They are just disapointed by Trump

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      LOL. The US is a vassal state of Israel and the UK is stuck in the same boat. You need to step back and look at the big picture here.

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      Y’all need to wake the fuck up and realize you’re all acting like Germans in the late 30’s.

      Ok what is the plan then? How do you think we should do to solve this? How many people do you think will die doing your plan? How should we fight the military as they will use them to try and stop any plans you make? Or is it that you think that we have to make our own plans?

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        well you guys just had an election and chose this.

        Step one would have been not doing that. But since you can’t change that, find someone to primary your local Dem and get more fuckers like Bernie in power.

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          You should recognize by now that among US users on the fediverse, there are basically zero (0) Trump supporters. You’re haranguing the people who are some of the strongest opposition to Trump. What are you trying to accomplish here

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            No, I do understand that.

            I’m just at the end of my wits on some of this “nothing can be done” doomism or hand wringing we see from all angles all the time now.

            “well all the parties suck” goes around and around and around nobody pushes to change anything.

            Saying the parties suck doesn’t fix them. They know they suck but they suck in a way that a few abusive assholes benefit from, so they’ll never change. They suck on purpose becayse they think their bread is buttered by the rich.

            I’ve just had enough.

            I’ve stopped pretending I need to accept things and started doing things regardless of if they sound hard.

            I can’t run for office, I don’t have the skills or interests. But I have some money and donate to politicians who support things I like, I joined a party to try to influence their policies (I hate that I had to do that), I write my MP and make it clear where my donations stand in respect to policy. They only give a fuck about money.

            I don’t know, it’s shit, but it’s fucking something.

            Americans must have some equivalent they can do at the local level at least.

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              But I have some money and donate to politicians who support things I like, I joined a party to try to influence their policies (I hate that I had to do that), I write my MP and make it clear where my donations stand in respect to policy. They only give a fuck about money.

              I don’t know, it’s shit, but it’s fucking something.

              Americans must have some equivalent they can do at the local level at least.

              We fucking do. We literally fucking do these things. I wrote to the DNC just last week that they’re never seeing another dime from me until they start throwing their full-throated support behind progressive candidates. I’m very active in local politics. None of this changes who is president or who is in charge of the US Legislature right now

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              Americans must have some equivalent they can do at the local level at least.

              Only at certain times. There was just a primary election (some locales had a special election too) yesterday, and there’s another one in November, but neither of them included the president on the ballot.

              May and November. That’s it. That’s all we’ve got, most of us; aside from protest.

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        Stop expecting us to figure it out for you. The protests and May day were a good start, but you need to remember your union history too.

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          Yep just like everyone else no plan just bitch and moan. This crap has been in the works since Bush Sr. We dont have a plan since we help yet when us USA citizens do ask for help in planning we get “do it yourself” well I for one am tired of it either you can help or you can SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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            I made suggestions to you in regards to planning (aka. the protests and May day strike) and for you to investigate your own history in regards to how the unions stood up to the corporations. What else can I do as a non-citizen of your country?

            I get it, it’s a fucking shit show there, but what do you realistically want me to do? If I were a US citizen, I would do something to help. How about you use the fury of the last four words you directed at me towards those who are actually tyrannizing the world instead of someone who is actually sympathetic to your cause?

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              I vote, I protest, I talk to those I can talk to. Nothing changes. I am just a disabled person with limited resources. What else can be done? I don’t have money or the ability to make much changes. Yet non-Americans seem to expect us to rise up against this. Hell my state isn’t even the gerrymandering war. I vote for democrats in local elections that can help. We have trouble getting unions as most people I know live paycheck to paycheck and do not have enough savings to do a strike. The twenty year plan of the republicans that has eroded the education system has worked. People are either not smart enough to not vote against their own self interest, they feel disillusioned and don’t vote, or vote as much as they can. I wish there was more people who voted in local elections but time off of work isn’t something a lot can do. America has been running towards a cliff since Citizens United, which gave companies the ability to bribe our officials. I worry that this county will fall before I die. It feels hopeless some days. edit: So when I see people say just go vote it really feels like someone telling a clinical depressed person to just not be sad.

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                I know you’re doing what you can. Just keep on lighting the fire under those around you who are differently abled than yourself. Especially those friends of yours who can go out and vote but didn’t. They are the ones who will also act. Your health may not allow certain things, but you’re doing more than many.

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        Exactly…but i’m not American. This is a cross Americans have to carry. I can’t change shit on my streets…but Americans can.

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          We can, in theory but shit’s hard in practice. Any systems for exerting collective power have been incredibly degraded, some of which has been intentional by motivated power systems. We don’t have local community groups with power anymore - we need strike funds, mutual aid groups, local leadership and activism… And none of that is really in place right now.

          My take is that lack of collective power is giving rise to lone gunmen types that don’t feel they have any recourse

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      I’m expecting China to step in and negotiate. Thus making them look like the adults in the room and taking over as global leaders while the US looks like a spoiled brat.

      It’s crazy how much we’ve degraded our global position in the past 10 years.

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        A good portion of that happend in the last 15 months.

        What would have taken 40 years was achieved in mere weeks by the orange genius.

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    Wait. So, someone actually told him his idea to escort ships through his own blockade of Iran’s blockade, was stupid?

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      Saudi Arabia realized that if they let him do this they would be hit by Iran in retaliation. Iran already showed that they can hit American bases in the region and they will also hit countries that host those bases as retaliation. As much as Trump and his toadies croak about Iran military being destroyed they still have military capabilities and their drone program is quite advanced because they had a lot of field testing in Ukraine.

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    Clown gonna clown. What a fucking embarrassment to Amercians and humanity. When people come to their senses, the Trump stamp will be less than worthless. Trump’s name will become synonymous with “Failed Fucking loser!!!” And will have his failure as a black eye on the Americans for decades to come. Good job Rump ya cunt!!

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      He was already a failure to the point that they were going to remove the Trump name from all of his properties.

      https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/15/502201761/trumps-name-will-be-removed-from-apartment-buildings-after-residents-demand-it

      When they rehabilitated his image for the Apprentice Trump was in a run down office at the end of his career. The producers commented how badly the place stunk and how most of the lights were either flickering or out. They spent half a million dollars just fixing it up to make it presentable for the show.

      His whole persona was fabricated for reality TV and that is the Trump most people know. A washed up failed and forgotten businessman brought back to life for reality TV. It was and still is a joke played on everyone not smart enough to see through the bullshit.