That social democracy “failed” to implement socialism.
This is incorrect in several ways. The most obvious one being that this is usually claimed by Marxist-Leninists, who have only ever succeeded in creating centralized economic dictatorships (as well as political dictatorships).
The secondary issue is that it puts the bar for what counts as socialism far too high. Any business that is owned by capitalists qualify as capitalist ownership, but only a 100% fully democratized economy counts as socialist. It’s a hypocritical way of thinking. A more rational approach is to admit the truth: that any organisation that is owned and controlled by the workers is a socialist organisation.
Nordic social democracy has the objectively greatest track record of implementing actual economic democracy in the whole world. We had plenty of worker’s co-ops, consumer co-ops, sports unions, hobby unions, non-profits and worker’s unions.
“Oh, but the Nordic countries fell to neoliberalism!” Yes, AFTER more than half a century of socialist policies and economic democratization. The USSR fell to dictatorship and centralism on day one. Nordic social democracy had decades of socialist progress where the USSR had absolutely none!
Nordic social democracy is the greatest success story of socialism in the whole world. Marxist-Leninists use every dirty trick in the book to discredit social democracy because they know that their shitty authoritarian mess of an ideology can’t compete with real progress.
The main problem with Nordic social democracy is that you still rely on economic imperialism and exploitation of the global south. As long as your socialism remains nationalist, it will not be socialism. That being said, of course you guys have a better track record on equality and democracy than purely capitalist nations like the US or Britain. I would much rather live in your country than mine.
That social democracy “failed” to implement socialism.
This is incorrect in several ways. The most obvious one being that this is usually claimed by Marxist-Leninists, who have only ever succeeded in creating centralized economic dictatorships (as well as political dictatorships).
The secondary issue is that it puts the bar for what counts as socialism far too high. Any business that is owned by capitalists qualify as capitalist ownership, but only a 100% fully democratized economy counts as socialist. It’s a hypocritical way of thinking. A more rational approach is to admit the truth: that any organisation that is owned and controlled by the workers is a socialist organisation.
Nordic social democracy has the objectively greatest track record of implementing actual economic democracy in the whole world. We had plenty of worker’s co-ops, consumer co-ops, sports unions, hobby unions, non-profits and worker’s unions.
“Oh, but the Nordic countries fell to neoliberalism!” Yes, AFTER more than half a century of socialist policies and economic democratization. The USSR fell to dictatorship and centralism on day one. Nordic social democracy had decades of socialist progress where the USSR had absolutely none!
Nordic social democracy is the greatest success story of socialism in the whole world. Marxist-Leninists use every dirty trick in the book to discredit social democracy because they know that their shitty authoritarian mess of an ideology can’t compete with real progress.
The main problem with Nordic social democracy is that you still rely on economic imperialism and exploitation of the global south. As long as your socialism remains nationalist, it will not be socialism. That being said, of course you guys have a better track record on equality and democracy than purely capitalist nations like the US or Britain. I would much rather live in your country than mine.