Chernobyl is hardly the only meltdown we have seen. 3 reactors in Fukushima, Three Mile Island, Fermi 1, K-19 soviet submarine, the US SL-1 test reactor. And there are plenty of non-meltdown radiation releases. Newer designs do seem safer, but the track record of nuclear power is checkered, at best.
I’ve heard the argument that nuclear is also bad because it still uses steam turbines which require grease/cooling oil derived from petroleum. Lot of anti turbine people for that reason. I wholeheartedly disagree and am what you could consider a highly knowledgeable person in the matter.
I think we have to settle with the fact that all oil deposits are going to be extracted and used by humanity. I’d prefer if we used it slowly to grease turbine bearings rather than just burning it all the time.
Also, until fairly recently, we were using whale oil for lubrication in a lot of things. As fucked up as it is, that shit is renewable. There are alternatives for lubrication that are slightly more expensive than petroleum products.
And yet the petroleum industry is pushing so hard to brainwash the public to think another Chernobyl is inevitable, even though they can make the very products that can prevent it.
Most energy sources trace back to the sun’s power through direct or indirect processes. Fossil fuels, wind, hydro, and biomass all originate from solar-driven cycles on Earth. About the only thing you could argue that isn’t solar is geothermal. But even that exists because some sun exploded created gas and dust that clumps together and forms a planet.
Yeah we need a good mix of things. Solar, wind, hydro, nuclear… Why not burn trash for electricity as well, unless we figure out excellent ways to recycle everything. Coal, gas and oil fuels should obviously be phased out as fast as possible, as much as possible.
The only electricity generation we need/should have is solar.
Why do you say that? Isn’t it better to diversify to guarantee supply when the sun is out? What’s the problem with wind, hydro or geothermal?
Plus, having other means to generate electricity would also somewhat bring down the cost of solar cells due to lower demand.
I’m saying a diversification of generation is needed. All eggs in any one particular basket is ignorance.
I’m dumb. I forgot you were saying that is a bad take. My bad.
Nuclear is fine, it’s only unsafe when people are idiots. Oh wait, actually scratch that, in that case it’s not safe. /s
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Chernobyl is hardly the only meltdown we have seen. 3 reactors in Fukushima, Three Mile Island, Fermi 1, K-19 soviet submarine, the US SL-1 test reactor. And there are plenty of non-meltdown radiation releases. Newer designs do seem safer, but the track record of nuclear power is checkered, at best.
There’s more to it than just Chernobyl.
That and the fossil fuel industry creating Greenpeace to spread propaganda far and wide under the guise of environmentalism
I’ve heard the argument that nuclear is also bad because it still uses steam turbines which require grease/cooling oil derived from petroleum. Lot of anti turbine people for that reason. I wholeheartedly disagree and am what you could consider a highly knowledgeable person in the matter.
I think we have to settle with the fact that all oil deposits are going to be extracted and used by humanity. I’d prefer if we used it slowly to grease turbine bearings rather than just burning it all the time.
Also, until fairly recently, we were using whale oil for lubrication in a lot of things. As fucked up as it is, that shit is renewable. There are alternatives for lubrication that are slightly more expensive than petroleum products.
I absolutely agree with everything you’ve said so far.
And yet the petroleum industry is pushing so hard to brainwash the public to think another Chernobyl is inevitable, even though they can make the very products that can prevent it.
But in the end isn’t all energy solar?
Most energy sources trace back to the sun’s power through direct or indirect processes. Fossil fuels, wind, hydro, and biomass all originate from solar-driven cycles on Earth. About the only thing you could argue that isn’t solar is geothermal. But even that exists because some sun exploded created gas and dust that clumps together and forms a planet.
Sure, that is a statement a human could type or vocalize.
I assure you I am human. But isn’t that exactly what an AI would say?
Although I also believe we live in a simulation so in the end maybe we are all AI.
Yeah we need a good mix of things. Solar, wind, hydro, nuclear… Why not burn trash for electricity as well, unless we figure out excellent ways to recycle everything. Coal, gas and oil fuels should obviously be phased out as fast as possible, as much as possible.