Study released a day before State of the Union address shows president has lost support among Republicans

Study released a day before State of the Union address shows president has lost support among Republicans

Most US adults think Donald Trump is moving the country in the wrong direction during his second presidency, according to a new NPR/PBS News/Marist poll released the day before his State of the Union speech.

Fifty-five percent of adults feel that Trump is changing the country for the worse, a 13-point increase from around the same time of his first presidency, the survey conducted from 27 to 30 January found.

The number of people who held that view also increased four points from April.

Unsurprisingly, support for the president splits down party lines.

  • daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    4 days ago

    The only thing that gives me hope we can at least semi fix the direction things are going is that at least for Hitler, most of the population fervently approved of Hitler.

    That’s not the case here.

    But that could just slow things down.

    All bets are off at this point.

      • exaybachae@startrek.website
        3·
        4 days ago

        Well, it’s kinda impossible to know for sure, as anyone not targeted by the Hitler regime as enemies was still discouraged from publicly, or even privately, disagreeing with the party.

        But there was likely some poll or support data available to scholars at different points that would give an idea of actual support at those points.

        I don’t have those details, and am not who you were asking, but I did hear support dwindled as the US entered the war. And, logically, it was probably higher when he was elected then when the war started getting real nasty.

        Most people start not liking their leadership when their leaders actions cause them personal distress.

      • daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        4 days ago

        I’ve heard 60% approved of him taking power. It was from a documentary you tube video.

        I guess I’m not 100% sure where they got the number from.

        Pretty sure it was an infographic video.

        Maybe this one. It’s been a few months since I watched it.

        https://youtu.be/gPB6_gXEoFc

        Hitler had the Hitler youth who were pretty intense. And plus a lot of citizens got the stuff he stole from their Jewish neighbors. Or at least sold to them at a discount.

        The people were mostly fine with these spoils.

        • Hubi@feddit.orgEnglish
          3·
          3 days ago

          For what it’s worth, the most votes Hitler’s party ever received on a national level was “just” 37%.

            • Hubi@feddit.org
              2·
              3 days ago

              He didn’t. In fact his results in the final free election were considerably worse than the year before. He had to enter a coalition with the Centre Party that enabled him to destroy the Weimar democracy from within.

              On 9 January 1933, Papen and Hindenburg agreed to form a new government that would bring in Hitler. On the evening of 22 January in a meeting at the villa of Joachim von Ribbentrop in Berlin, Papen made the concession of abandoning his claim to the chancellorship and committed to support Hitler as chancellor in a proposed “Government of National Concentration”, in which Papen would serve as vice-chancellor and Minister-President of Prussia. On 23 January, Papen presented to Hindenburg his idea for Hitler to be made chancellor, while keeping him “boxed” in. On the same day Schleicher, to avoid a vote of no-confidence in the Reichstag when it reconvened on 31 January, asked the president to declare a state of emergency. Hindenburg declined and Schleicher resigned at midday on 28 January. Hindenburg formally gave Papen the task of forming a new government.

              In the morning of 29 January, Papen met with Hitler and Hermann Göring at his apartment, where it was agreed that Papen would serve as vice-chancellor and Commissioner for Prussia. It was in the same meeting that Papen first learned that Hitler wanted to dissolve the Reichstag when he became chancellor and, once the Nazis had won a majority of the seats in the ensuing elections, to activate the Enabling Act in order to be able to enact laws without the involvement of the Reichstag. When the people around Papen voiced their concerns about putting Hitler in power, he asked them, “What do you want?” and reassured them, “I have the confidence of Hindenburg! In two months, we’ll have pushed Hitler so far into the corner that he’ll squeal.”

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Papen#Bringing_Hitler_to_power

              • daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                3 days ago

                So he got into power without any voting. ? Am I understanding you correctly ?

                So in that case I guess we don’t know very accurately how many people supported him at that point.

                It would probably be speculating at best to his popularity.

                It does seem though in general, initially he was fairly popular with the people and some of the other politicians.

                • Hubi@feddit.orgEnglish
                  2·
                  3 days ago

                  There was a election and his party received the most votes, but it was far from what they needed to govern just by themselves. He had to find another party willing to form a coalition with to get above the required threshold. The other parties with strong results, the Left and the Social Democrats, refused to join him for obvious reasons. The Centre Party thought he could be easily controlled and saw their chance to get into government with him. They did not take him or his threats seriously.

                  Everything he did to seize power was completely legal, he just used the system against itself. And to circle back to the original point: While his party was popular at the time, the vast majority of people did not want them in power. As you said correctly, it’s nearly impossible to determine his actual popularity after 1933.

                  • daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    1·
                    2 days ago

                    I was aware that he used legal maneuvering to take control. (From that video I referred to)

                    And then at a certain point stopped abiding by the very system laws that allowed him to get into position.

                    Which is very concerning. Because I think many people and many politicians are under the impression that they can keep trump in check with laws.

                    But he only abides by them when they suit him and disregards them when they don’t.

                    And those who oppose him always stay within the laws.

                    When we have no laws of enforcement/punishment of the executive branch, then any laws are dismissible by the executive branch when it suits them.

                    And there is already a long history of presidents doing this. Trump isn’t the first. Just the worst.

                    Our current government system is set to ultimately fail when tested in this way.

                    It’s playing a game where your opponent is allowed to cheat with no penalty and can even change the rules at their whim. But you are bound to the rule book.

                    Not impossible to still beat but nearly. And unlikely.