I got a friend who’s MAGA and I’ve been talking to her about her politics for a bit and she’s willing to hear me out on my concerns. It’s also black history month, and she knows nothing about black history.
I wanna watch a movie with her or a documentary that dives into modern-day racism without explicitly putting down MAGA/conservatives. My goal is not to insult her or make her feel bad, it’s to educate her, hence why I’m asking.
(Please let me know if something I’ve said is problematic or offensive in some kinda way? Sometimes I word things badly or I will ask things that arent okay and I dont realize it until I hit post, lemme know so I can correct myself for the future thankyuuuu ;w;)
It’s not quite the movie/documentary you are looking for, but I have seen https://leavingmaga.org/ spread around.
Before you try to educate someone else, I suggest you educate yourself first (because this is a really hairy terrain to navigate).
https://youarenotsosmart.com/2022/06/27/yanss-236-how-minds-change/
That one on Youtube about the dad. I can’t think of the name. Racism will only if they have a personal connection with a minority (intimacy, blood relations, friends, community, etc.).
The Brainwashing Of My Dad?
Yeah, that’s a good one.
The problem is the recipient has to be receptive to their bias and intolerance. And most either aren’t or actively revel in it.
Not trying to dissuade you, but have you considered talking to her about class politics and the economy?
I believe I have and she’s brought up some conspiracy theories to try and dissuade my points. Im gonna prolly educate her tonight on the psychology if Conspiracy theories and see what she thinks after that
Will you keep us posted?
Have you ever heard of the Socratic method?
So i finally got to watch 13th with her and she took it well up until the end when they started showing clips n shit of trump speaking like a racist. She is open to every other thing except changing her mind about Trump. if I try to discuss anything in relation to him with her she gets extremely frustrated and I’m not sure how to get around that <:/
I think I’m just gonna stop mentioning politics to her and just- let her come to her own conclusions from now on and stop trying to spoonfeed stuff about trump to her. At this point I feel greasy doing it, like I’m going out of my way to try and get her to think like me and I should really not do that. She doesn’t push her opinions onto me so it’s just not right for me to push mine onto her. I should listen to what one other person said and just enjoy the friendship I have with her
Thats okay, too. But, never stop trying to radicalize her. It doesnt have to be in an overt way. It can be subtle conversations about class politics. That has been working with my parents. Thanks for the update tho! What movie is this?
Make sure she is actually interested in watching or learning more. It can come off as very preachy and grandiose what you’re doing.
Mmmm true… How do I not sound preachy?
Honestly? I would back out of this entirely and just enjoy the friendship. Personally, I would feel manipulated regardless, I dont like the idea of friends with an agenda for me. What I believe is my business.
If she starts it? Sure, that’s a different matter. That’s how you avoid sounding preachy. By not preaching.
Hey man, after watching on the documentaries with her. She took it well up until it started mentioning stuff about trump and then she got frustrated.
I think I’m gonna listen to your advice, I said this in another thread but its just not my place to try and get her to “change her mind” I’m like- no better than the nutjob conservatives that will fight tooth and nail just to get someone to think the way they do.
She did enjoy the documentary up until the end, and at this point I just… feel bad.
I apologized to her after the vid, she had made a comment during our discussion that “I only watched this with you cus I wanted you to feel comfy and cus it was Black history month, but I feel like you lead me into this wanting to talk about Trump again” and that’s when i realized I’m crossing a line I shouldn’t. That comment made me realize that I was being a bit of a bitch… Even if I was coming from a place of good intentions.
I have a tendency to get like this, I’ll get frustrated or upset when I cant change someone’s mind on something, I’ll become obsessed with trying to prove my point until nothing else seems to matter anymore… I gotta stop that, its just not a good trait to have. Like sure its nice to talk about stuff and get my point across but at some point I gotta let it go and accept her as she is. I gotta start accepting people as they are, I had the same issue with my mom (she’s not MAGA whatsoever, just stubborn lol) and learn to live with that.
I mean… I just worry for her dude… Her dad already gog laid off just 2 nights after they were talking to me about how “Trump was gonna make more jobs n fix all the layoffs” or whatever tf. and the company her dad works for LOBBIED WITH TRUMP to get him elected.
Shes super sheltered and just knows absolutely nothing about black history which I feel is a problem. At the very least I just her educated about black issues n shit cus her and her mom mentioned some shit about being “Colorblind” and just- as a darkie myself im just not about that 😭
It is up to them to learn from their mistakes. That’s how learning works.
I cannot imagine having a maga friend at this point. I could not look at them without thinking how insane they are.
