I’m curious how you were free at the time in your life when you have the least amount of freedom to make any decision whatsoever (0-6).
Well, I guess that’s debatable, sure. I was thinking in the sense that I wasn’t studying or working, so the last option was that I was free. I guess you could say that that is a different kind of thing altogether? I was constrained both by my parents attempting to raise me and by my stupidity, weakness, frailty, and overall lack of understanding of everything on account of being a tiny child. Still, I think I had huge freedom, in that I was being guided by my seniors, though there was really nothing I had to do, and everything I needed was provided to me free of charge. I don’t know, sounds reasonable to me to call that freedom.
And I think part of the point is that you are not free in your retirement years because your body is old.
Personally, I think this is absurd! There’s definitely something to that, I agree – disease, for example, definitely hinders one’s ability to enjoy life – but there are many older folks that are perfectly healthy and capable of living fulfilling lives in retirement. My grandmother (mid-70s), for example, and my own father (mid-50s) are shining examples! They’re both very active physically, which is something that I myself have been doing for about 2 years now, in preparation for my life post-retirement.
Also, I think that sort of mentality is destructive. Do you dread old age? I certainly don’t! Not only do I intend to stay healthy, but even if I don’t, I intend to keep doing things I enjoy. Are you marathon runners or something?! I enjoy reading, eating good food, riding the train, art, and nature… I don’t suspect my old age to rob that from me. Not until I’m way old, anyway, and by then, I shall die after having enjoyed many great things for many years, I hope, with a smile on my wrinkly and sun-damaged face.
Sure, but you should not expect to be healthy in your old age. Hope for it, plan for it, sure. But also realize that you don’t have a whole lot of control over it in the end. Use what you’ve got while you’ve got it.
And no, I don’t dread old age. My genetic problems reared their heads long ago.
Sure, but you should not expect to be healthy in your old age. Hope for it, plan for it, sure. But also realise that you don’t have a whole lot of control over it in the end. Use what you’ve got while you’ve got it.
To an extent, I agree with this. Of course, any number of things could (and will) happen, outside of my control, and some of those things might cause me sickness and hurt my health. True, and I accept that, as we all should. But I shouldn’t expect to be healthy? Why not?!
Not as healthy and capable as I am now, certainly, but healthy? Yes. I think I should expect it. Living a healthy life, making the right choices for my long-term health… I’m stacking the deck in my favour. If something happens to me, alright, but why would I expect to be unhealthy when I’ve seen first-hand and second-hand and third-hand that it is perfectly possible to be old and healthy? I think you sound like a fatalist.
And no, I don’t dread old age. My genetic problems reared their heads long ago.
That’s really unfortunate :C I do hope you still find joy in life :D
I’m curious on how you plan to retire at 50. Doing that where I live means you basically get no pension so you’d have to have saved up enough to live the rest of your life during those 27 years, so a bit over half your income would need to go into a savings account.
Look up “FIRE” for “financial independence, retire early.”
tl;dr - save a larger chunk of your salary and invest it become part of the owner class, living off the interest, dividends, and capital gains surplus value generated by the working class.
36 years as a walking corpse that society no longer wants, outside your grandkids. So you have to perpetuate the cycle to feel anything. Oh, and some beautiful landscape and nice things you can buy, again, while you rot away, and no one cares what you have at all, no one to share with.
I was free from 0-6.
I am going to study from 6-27, roughly, though also working in the meantime. Let’s call that 20 years.
I intend to work from 23-50, at most. Hopefully less. That’s 27 years.
There’s some overlap.
Let’s say I die at 80 (I’m almost 25). A slightly early death, on average.
That’s 36 free years. 27 years of work. 20 years of study.
36 free years VS 44 work/study years
Methinks possible. Methinks not so bad?
I’m curious how you were free at the time in your life when you have the least amount of freedom to make any decision whatsoever (0-6).
And I think part of the point is that you are not free in your retirement years because your body is old.
Well, I guess that’s debatable, sure. I was thinking in the sense that I wasn’t studying or working, so the last option was that I was free. I guess you could say that that is a different kind of thing altogether? I was constrained both by my parents attempting to raise me and by my stupidity, weakness, frailty, and overall lack of understanding of everything on account of being a tiny child. Still, I think I had huge freedom, in that I was being guided by my seniors, though there was really nothing I had to do, and everything I needed was provided to me free of charge. I don’t know, sounds reasonable to me to call that freedom.
Personally, I think this is absurd! There’s definitely something to that, I agree – disease, for example, definitely hinders one’s ability to enjoy life – but there are many older folks that are perfectly healthy and capable of living fulfilling lives in retirement. My grandmother (mid-70s), for example, and my own father (mid-50s) are shining examples! They’re both very active physically, which is something that I myself have been doing for about 2 years now, in preparation for my life post-retirement.
Also, I think that sort of mentality is destructive. Do you dread old age? I certainly don’t! Not only do I intend to stay healthy, but even if I don’t, I intend to keep doing things I enjoy. Are you marathon runners or something?! I enjoy reading, eating good food, riding the train, art, and nature… I don’t suspect my old age to rob that from me. Not until I’m way old, anyway, and by then, I shall die after having enjoyed many great things for many years, I hope, with a smile on my wrinkly and sun-damaged face.
Sure, but you should not expect to be healthy in your old age. Hope for it, plan for it, sure. But also realize that you don’t have a whole lot of control over it in the end. Use what you’ve got while you’ve got it.
And no, I don’t dread old age. My genetic problems reared their heads long ago.
To an extent, I agree with this. Of course, any number of things could (and will) happen, outside of my control, and some of those things might cause me sickness and hurt my health. True, and I accept that, as we all should. But I shouldn’t expect to be healthy? Why not?!
Not as healthy and capable as I am now, certainly, but healthy? Yes. I think I should expect it. Living a healthy life, making the right choices for my long-term health… I’m stacking the deck in my favour. If something happens to me, alright, but why would I expect to be unhealthy when I’ve seen first-hand and second-hand and third-hand that it is perfectly possible to be old and healthy? I think you sound like a fatalist.
That’s really unfortunate :C I do hope you still find joy in life :D
I’m really not. Quite the converse, really: I think that people take the present for granted, and their futures as well.
But thank you. Life is often tedious but has plenty of joyful moments.
I’m curious on how you plan to retire at 50. Doing that where I live means you basically get no pension so you’d have to have saved up enough to live the rest of your life during those 27 years, so a bit over half your income would need to go into a savings account.
Look up “FIRE” for “financial independence, retire early.”
tl;dr - save a larger chunk of your salary and
invest itbecome part of the owner class, living off theinterest, dividends, and capital gainssurplus value generated by the working class.You seem to already know pretty much what I plan to do. What I’m already doing.
I’m saving a bit more than half my income, and I’m investing it rather than putting it in a savings account, but yeah that’s it, you got it!
36 years as a walking corpse that society no longer wants, outside your grandkids. So you have to perpetuate the cycle to feel anything. Oh, and some beautiful landscape and nice things you can buy, again, while you rot away, and no one cares what you have at all, no one to share with.
What are you talking about? Grandkids at 50?
Do you have to work or study to feel anything? What cycle are you talking about?
I’m confused.