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      Also they predicted conservatives would be the ones implementing this oppressive government while shouting about God and immigrants pretty well.

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        Well the thing is, a lot of the stuff the current UK government are doing wasn’t actually on the manifesto. Even the people who voted for them had no idea this would happen.

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        It would be a very weird coincidence, but I think the 2038 regime is mostly an internet-born conspiracy theory.

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    Book of the New Sun blowin them all out of the water, so far off the charts you’d need a movie theater screen to display it, at “i dunno, a bajillion?”

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    Hold on, are the years listed for The Matrix and Dune right? Isn’t Dune like thousands of years in the future? Like so far in the future humanity has forgotten where Earth even is.

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      Yeah the Matrix isn’t right unless there’s some obscure comic that clarifies the “closer to 2199, no one knows for sure” line.

      Dune is supposed to be like the year 10,000 or something?

      They also left off Idiocracy’s date, which was 2505 according to the newspaper.

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        The Humans in Zion think it’s closer to 2199, but they don’t know about the cycle of The One.

        In his cave speech just before the rave, Morpheus says they’ve been fighting the Machines for 100 years. There are people in Zion old enough that that might be accurate for the cycle they’re on.

        The Architect says this will be the sixth time they destroy Zion. The Machines being machines are likely consistent in their timeline, which would mean that the cycle of The One takes about 100 years to resolve each time.

        So the year is at least 2699, but likely later than that when you take into account the earlier, failed, versions of the Matrix before they figured out The One cycle.

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        Dune is like 10,000 years past the Butlerian Jihad which is supposed to be an existential war against AI and humans that leaves Earth unrecognizable. Even generously that’s still not even close to this millenia

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        No. The Butlerian Jihad is somewhere around 10,000 AD, the first book is somewhere around 20k~25k AD.

        Also, in my headcannon Dune and 40k are the same universe and the story of Paul Atreades is how the god emperor came to be.

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          Yeah that would roughly align with the early days of the DAoT in 40k. But I’m pretty sure I’m Dune Earth is effectively destroyed and then turned into an international park, isn’t it?

          EDIT: that might be from the Dune Encyclopedia rather than Dune itself, idk.

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          I was only off by 10,000 years!

          I’ve noticed a lot of carried over themes in 40k, with the cautionary tale of rogue AI making computers untrusted and stuff like that. What I didn’t expect is how much the 1962 Lawrence of Arabia movie seemed to influence the first Dune book. That might be a stretch since the movie came out just a year before he started releasing Dune content, but a lot of that fit.

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            I mean… Lawrence of Arabia was a real person and his story was quite well known. Written into a biographical account in 1926.

            It’s not a far stretch to think Herbert was inspired by those stories as well as those of the desert rats and fighting forces in the Africa campaigns of WW2, Conrad’s heart of darkness and well… Yeah everything in human history up to that point.

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          Sorry, actually to the newspaper in the movie. And I guess it was actually a magazine.

          Amazing how it got everything else so close, but kept archaic news mediums that aren’t even relevant today.

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        In Matrix the uprisal of the robots happens around the year 2000. I remember a scene though where Morpheus explains to Neo something like “You think the year is 1999, but it’s more likely we write the year 2199. We don’t know it exactly to be honest”.

        So this could actually be true

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      Dune is minimum 20k AD. When people say “Dune takes place in the year 10,000”, that’s 10k years after an event that took place at least after 10k AD.

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        Future fiction loves bringing up contemporary (to the reader) figures and events. Star trek is obsessed with it.

        Which makes sense since its just social commentary in space

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        idk we know egyptian pharaohs it’s not that hard to imagine that he will be remembered, especially among politicians and history buffs